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   Hans Bezemer to dxf   
   Re: "The Best Programming Language for t   
   16 Apr 25 18:20:18   
   
   From: the.beez.speaks@gmail.com   
      
   On 16-04-2025 02:15, dxf wrote:   
   > On 16/04/2025 5:47 am, mhx wrote:   
   >>> 1_0 2_0 + . \ output: 30   
   >>   
   >> Sorry, I really don't like this. It takes away my   
   >> underlying mental model of how things should work.   
   >> What happens for "10_ 20_ + ." ?   
   >   
   > By "mental model" presumably you mean cultural conditioning?  Since   
   > as far as I'm aware nobody is born with it.  While some fret over   
   > 1. F.  I can't say it's been an issue since leaving Microsoft BASIC   
   > in the 1980's.  Perhaps my missing the whole C thing had something   
   > to do with it - in which case I'm grateful.  The endless comparison   
   > of Forth with other languages only serves to belittle it.   
      
   Well, frankly, I feel sometimes you should take the pain - or maybe   
   introduce a setting to select the implementation. I've been through this   
   a few times, fixing dozens of programs because I felt this solution was   
   far better than what it replaced.   
      
   You can tune the behavior of most C compilers as well - comply to a   
   certain standard. Don't tell me you can't do that with Forth (because   
   you can).   
      
   But if you allow to build kludge after kludge after kludge, you will end   
   up with a very weird language.   
      
   Hans Bezemer   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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