From: all2001@spambog.com   
      
   On 18 Apr 25 at group /comp/lang/forth in article 2025Apr18.0828   
   7@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at   
     (anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at)  wrote:   
      
   >> That's much like setting the radix.   
      
   > BASE is one of the misfeatures of Forth, and demonstrates the   
   > disadvantage of having a state for the rest of the text   
   > interpretation, and the Chuck Moore approach to .  Do you start every   
   > file with DECIMAL or HEX?  Looking at SwiftForth (where one might   
   > expect the most Chuck Moore influence), I see 26 occurences of DECIMAL   
   > and 16 occurences of HEX, and usually not before the first occurence   
   > of an integer with several digits.  As an example, the file that   
   > contains the definition   
      
   > : DECIMAL ( -- )   10 BASE ! ;   
      
   > does not contain an invocation of DECIMAL before this use of "10".   
      
   >> So - why couldn't this work?   
      
   > As mentioned, there is no [FORTH2012] and no [ANSFORTH].   
      
   > Moreover, this general approach does not work for BASE: If the next   
   > standard required that systems start out in, say, octal, I am sure   
   > that a lot of the existing source files would fail unless you invoked   
   > DECIMAL before the INCLUDE.  BASE only works (and only so-so) because   
   > every sane system defaults to DECIMAL, and that does not change   
   > between standard versions.   
      
   In all of my applications $0A BASE ! is one of the 1st words, because of   
   the DECIMAL issue. and ICECOLD and COLD also set it to $0A   
      
   Also all my developed HW (w/ and w/ FORTH) I made a 0,1uf || 100k from GND   
   to PE and spent a good PWRup/BROWNout chip.   
      
   and my ICECOLD sets the RAM all regs of CPU and peripheral to the default   
   state or 0 if there is none.   
      
   So all my aps start with a defined state of all regs, vars...   
      
   Covered my ass very good for nearly 60 yrs of working!   
      
   YMMV and masochists don't do it :)   
      
      
      
      
      
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