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   Hans Bezemer   wrote:   
   >On 21-04-2025 09:38, dxf wrote:   
   > > On 21/04/2025 6:34 am, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote:   
   > >> In article <757e2ced7a6ff4b73d9fa4531d29ff611dc72e10@i2pn2.org>,   
   > >> dxf   wrote:   
   > >>> On 20/04/2025 6:18 pm, Paul Rubin wrote:   
   > >>>> anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) writes:   
   > >>>>> : DECIMAL ( -- )   10 BASE ! ;   
   > >>>>> does not contain an invocation of DECIMAL before this use of "10".   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> : DECIMAL ( -- ) 5 5 + BASE ! ;   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> should usually work.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Perhaps it's been updated since as the SwiftForth file I have has:   
   > >>>   
   > >>> : DECIMAL ( -- )   $0A BASE ! ;   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Closest thing to a BASE issue I've encountered was invoking the   
   > >>> screen editor while in HEX.  After doing that a few times I fixed   
   > >>> the editor!   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Really annoying was LMI which on error switched to DECIMAL ...   
   > >>   
   > >> They had it half right. All error numbers should be printed in   
   > >> decimal. First aid read the paragraphs in de documentation   
   > >> pertaining to this error.   
   > >   
   > > I notice I did that for THROW numbers that don't have a message - after   
   > > which it reverts to the current BASE.  I should document that   
   >somewhere...   
   >   
   >To force myself to add messages to THROWs (especially in libs with   
   >special conditions) I added THROW" - it works like a combination of   
   >ABORT" and THROW. You need to specify a THROW code, you need to specify   
   >a flag and you need to specify a message.   
      
   This perpetuates the myth that a message is documentation.   
   Error documentation in my manual can run over half a page, as   
   did the FORTRAN errors in IBM manual.   
   You don't actually want an error message, you want to know what   
   you can do about it.   
      
   >   
   >Hans Bezemer   
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