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   minforth to All   
   Re: The future. (was Re: Parsing timesta   
   16 Jul 25 07:41:26   
   
   From: minforth@gmx.net   
      
   Am 16.07.2025 um 07:21 schrieb dxf:   
   > On 16/07/2025 12:09 pm, minforth wrote:   
   >> Am 15.07.2025 um 17:25 schrieb LIT:   
   >>>> Now riscv is the future.   
   >>>   
   >>> I don't know. From what I learned, RISC-V   
   >>> is strongly compiler-oriented. They wrote,   
   >>> for example, that it lacks any condition codes.   
   >>> Only conditional branches are predicated on   
   >>> examining the contents of registers at the time   
   >>> of the branch. No "add with carry" nor "subtract   
   >>> with carry". From an assembly point of view, the   
   >>> lack of a carry flag is a PITA if you desire to   
   >>> do multi-word mathematical manipulation of numbers.   
   >>>   
   >>> So it seems, that the RISC-V architecture is intended   
   >>> to be used by compilers generating code from high level   
   >>> languages.   
   >>   
   >> I read somewhere:   
   >> The standard is now managed by RISC-V International, which   
   >> has more than 3,000 members and which reported that more   
   >> than 10 billion chips containing RISC-V cores had shipped   
   >> by the end of 2022. Many implementations of RISC-V are   
   >> available, both as open-source cores and as commercial   
   >> IP products.   
   >>   
   >> You call that compiler-oriented???   
   >   
   > It depends on how many are being programmed by the likes of GCC.   
   > When ATMEL hit the market the manufacturer claimed their chips   
   > were designed with compilers in mind.  Do Arduino users program   
   > in hand-coded assembler?  Do you?  It's no longer just the chip's   
   > features and theoretical performance one has to worry about but   
   > the compilers too.   
   >   
      
   Don't worry, be happy, visit  https://riscv.org/   
      
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