From: the.beez.speaks@gmail.com
On 05-10-2025 13:25, Ruvim wrote:
I'd be happy to support LATEST-NAME as a preprocessor macro (although I
doubt 4tH's LATEST is compatible), but I won't be introducing it in the
native 4tH compiler for the following reasons:
Moore:
"There are diverging programming styles in the Forth community. One uses
hyphenated words that express in English what the word is doing. You
string these big long words together and you get something that is quite
readable. But I immediately suspect that the programmer didn’t think out
the words carefully enough, that the hyphen should be broken and the
words defined separately. That isn’t always possible, and it isn’t
always advantageous. But I suspect a hyphenated word of mixing two
concepts."
Which is part of TF, also tip 5.19 *"Favor short words"*
.. and LATEST-WORD is not short. We had a good word there, LATEST, which
I guess does at least 90% of the work proposed, so why not take that one?
It is a tendency I see within Forth-200x to take longer and longer
words, just to avoid any collisions with existing words. And I don't
think that's a smart move.
What's next? PLACE-IN-STRING? APPEND-TO-STRING? As replacements for
PLACE and +PLACE?
Yeah - next proposal is to extend a line in a block to 128 characters.
If you want to introduce new words, try a thesaurus.
Frankly, I feel very strongly about names. See:
https://sourceforge.net/p/forth-4th/wiki/What%27s%20in%20a%20name%3F/
Hans Bezemer
> I have updated my proposal on the `latest-name` and `latest-name-in`
> words. Essentially, I have added a lot of rationale and one very
> portable reference implementation.
>
> See at
>
>
> Please let me know if you have any questions or suggestions on this
> regard. Note that this webpage contains previous versions of the
> proposal above the specified anchor.
>
>
> See also a discussion on the same subject in 2023 at
>
>
>
> --
> Ruvim
>
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