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   Anton Ertl to Buzz McCool   
   Re: gforth-1.0 release   
   24 Oct 25 15:11:32   
   
   From: anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at   
      
   Buzz McCool  writes:   
   >Anton, do any of your undergraduates need a senior project that could help   
   out with a Debian release?   
      
   There is a release as a .deb package.  And you can install it with   
   apt, once you have added net2o.de to your apt sources (see the section   
   about "Debian >= Bullseye" on https://gforth.org/).  As for having it   
   as an official Debian package, one would have to become a Debian   
   developer in order to do that, and, from what I read, that's a rather   
   long process.   
      
   But if someone volunteers, they can start with Bernd's .deb and then   
   maim it according to the requirements of Debian (the current official   
   Debian Gforth package does not include the manual and disables   
   native-code generation (for the current development gforth-fast that   
   causes a slowdown by a factor 4-11).  So I am not so sure that having   
   no official Debian gforth package is a real loss.   
      
   Concerning the idea that undergraduate students help out, I would need   
   some that are interested in whatever I want help for, and my   
   experience is that most of the time, advising the student consumes a   
   lot of time, and the results are disappointing (not necessarily the   
   student's fault); however, sometimes the results are great.  In any   
   case, unpaid student work is good for proof-of-concepts, not for   
   something that needs long-term involvement like an official Debian   
   package.   
      
   - anton   
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