From: bowman@montana.com   
      
   On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 16:44:54 -0500, BGB wrote:   
      
   > Like, there are still some interesting/useful ideas in all of this, even   
   > if Java itself is kind of a turd.   
      
   It's a minority opinion but I think C# is what Java could have been.   
   Microsoft did have Visual J++ in the late '90s and I liked it. In fact I   
   stumbled over the CD a couple of weeks ago when looking for something   
   else. However a Sun lawsuit put the end to it. There was a J# that didn't   
   last too long, and finally C# incorporated lessons learned.   
      
   MS really confused things in the transition from .NET Framework to .NET   
   Core but, with the exception of GUIs, .NET works on Linux.   
      
   I play around with MCUs so that is mostly C/C++ or MicroPython. As usual   
   you have more control and speed with C but if you're not pushing the edge   
   MicroPython usually is a shorter development time.   
      
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