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   Michael S to Keith Thompson   
   Re: New and improved version of cdecl   
   27 Oct 25 01:12:39   
   
   From: already5chosen@yahoo.com   
      
   On Sun, 26 Oct 2025 15:45:34 -0700   
   Keith Thompson  wrote:   
      
   > Michael S  writes:   
   > > On Sun, 26 Oct 2025 14:56:56 -0700   
   > > Keith Thompson  wrote:   
   > >> Michael S  writes:   
   > >> > On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 13:20:45 -0700   
   > >> > Keith Thompson  wrote:   
   > >> [...]   
   > >> >> Free software still has to be usable.  cdecl is usable for most   
   > >> >> of us.   
   > >> >>   
   > >> >> [...]   
   > >> >>   
   > >> >   
   > >> > I'd say that it is not sufficiently usable for most of us to   
   > >> > actually use it.   
   > >>   
   > >> Why do you say that?   
   > >   
   > > I would guess that less than 1 per cent of C programmers ever used   
   > > it and less than 5% of those who used it once continued to use it   
   > > regularly.   
   > > All numbers pulled out of thin air...   
   >   
   > So it's about usefulness, not usability.  You're not saying that   
   > it works incorrectly or that it's difficult to use (which would be   
   > usability issues), but that the job it performs is not useful for   
   > most C programmers.   
   >   
      
   No, it's about usability.   
   I'd imagine that in order to be closer to usable tools like that would   
   better be integrated into programmer's text editor/IDE.   
      
      
   > (One data point: I use it occasionally.)   
   >   
      
   How about your co-workers?   
      
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