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   Keith Thompson to Michael S   
   Re: New and improved version of cdecl   
   26 Oct 25 16:15:17   
   
   From: Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com   
      
   Michael S  writes:   
   > On Sun, 26 Oct 2025 15:45:34 -0700   
   > Keith Thompson  wrote:   
   >   
   >> Michael S  writes:   
   >> > On Sun, 26 Oct 2025 14:56:56 -0700   
   >> > Keith Thompson  wrote:   
   >> >> Michael S  writes:   
   >> >> > On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 13:20:45 -0700   
   >> >> > Keith Thompson  wrote:   
   >> >> [...]   
   >> >> >> Free software still has to be usable.  cdecl is usable for most   
   >> >> >> of us.   
   >> >> >>   
   >> >> >> [...]   
   >> >> >>   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> > I'd say that it is not sufficiently usable for most of us to   
   >> >> > actually use it.   
   >> >>   
   >> >> Why do you say that?   
   >> >   
   >> > I would guess that less than 1 per cent of C programmers ever used   
   >> > it and less than 5% of those who used it once continued to use it   
   >> > regularly.   
   >> > All numbers pulled out of thin air...   
   >>   
   >> So it's about usefulness, not usability.  You're not saying that   
   >> it works incorrectly or that it's difficult to use (which would be   
   >> usability issues), but that the job it performs is not useful for   
   >> most C programmers.   
   >   
   > No, it's about usability.   
   > I'd imagine that in order to be closer to usable tools like that would   
   > better be integrated into programmer's text editor/IDE.   
      
   Personally, integration into a text editor or IDE would not be useful   
   for me.  Of course I accept that it would be useful for you.   
      
   >> (One data point: I use it occasionally.)   
   >   
   > How about your co-workers?   
      
   I don't have any at the moment.   
      
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   Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com   
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