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   dbush to olcott   
   Re: Kaz insists on dodging this point on   
   27 Oct 25 20:32:33   
   
   XPost: comp.theory   
   From: dbush.mobile@gmail.com   
      
   On 10/27/2025 8:29 PM, olcott wrote:   
   > On 10/27/2025 7:23 PM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:   
   >> On 2025-10-27, olcott  wrote:   
   >>> On 10/27/2025 3:48 PM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:   
   >>>> On 2025-10-27, dbush  wrote:   
   >>>>>> I am only referring to these fifteen lines   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> A straight forward sequence of steps that any   
   >>>>>> C programmer can easily determine:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> int D()   
   >>>>>> {   
   >>>>>>      int Halt_Status = H(D);   
   >>>>>>      if (Halt_Status)   
   >>>>>>        HERE: goto HERE;   
   >>>>>>      return Halt_Status;   
   >>>>>> }   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Then you have nothing as this is incomplete and cannot be run.   
   >>>   
   >>> This proves the general idea regardless of the   
   >>> implementation details of any specific instance.   
   >>   
   >> OK, so you are saying you no longer have a viable, discussion-worthy   
   >> instance?   
   >>   
   >> Oopsies, if so!   
   >>   
   >   
   > Sure I do   
   Then you know that Kaz's code shows that HHH isn't correct as you've   
   admitted on the record:   
      
      
   On 10/26/2025 9:38 PM, dbush wrote:   
    > On 10/26/2025 9:32 PM, olcott wrote:   
    >> On 10/26/2025 8:28 PM, dbush wrote:   
    >>> On 10/26/2025 9:20 PM, olcott wrote:   
    >>>> On 10/26/2025 8:16 PM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:   
    >>>>   
    >>>> int DD()   
    >>>> {   
    >>>>    int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);   
    >>>>    if (Halt_Status)   
    >>>>      HERE: goto HERE;   
    >>>>    return Halt_Status;   
    >>>> }   
    >>>>   
    >>>> HHH(DD) simulates DD that calls HHH(DD) to do this   
    >>>> again and again until HHH figures out what is up.   
    >>>>   
    >>>>   
    >>>   
    >>> And HHH figures it out incorrectly as proven by the code posted by   
   Katz.   
    >>>   
    >>   
    >> You can't even get his name correctly deep ship!   
    >> (A less contentious way of say dip shit).   
    >>> If you disagree, point out exactly where Kaz's code is in error.   
    >>>   
    >>> Failure to do so in your next reply or within one hour of your next   
    >>> post in this newsgroup will be taken as your official on-the-record   
    >>> admission that Kaz's code conclusively proves that the DD that HHH   
    >>> simulates will halt when simulated enough steps and therefore that   
    >>> the input to HHH(DD) specifies a halting computation.   
    >   
    > Let the record show that Peter Olcott made no attempt to show how the   
    > code posted by Kaz proves that the DDD that HHH simulates will halt.   
    > Therefore:   
    >   
    > Let The Record Show   
    >   
    > That Peter Olcott   
    >   
    > Has *officially* admitted:   
    >   
    > That Kaz's code conclusively proves that the DD that HHH simulates will   
    > halt when simulated enough steps and therefore that the input to HHH(DD)   
    > specifies a halting computation.   
      
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