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   Kaz Kylheku to olcott   
   Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly rea   
   28 Oct 25 03:40:24   
   
   XPost: comp.theory   
   From: 643-408-1753@kylheku.com   
      
   On 2025-10-28, olcott  wrote:   
   > Once H has correctly determines that its simulated   
   > D cannot possibly reach its own simulated "return"   
   > instruction final halt state it is nutty to do   
   > anything else besides abort and reject the input.   
      
   I have traces which prove otherwise.   
      
   In several of your .obj test cases, the test subject, like D   
   or DDD, is proclaimed to be non-halting.  Yet when we resume its   
   abandoned simulation, it halts!   
      
   In your oldest Halt7.obj, when I resume the simulation of DD, it does   
   not halt. So that agrees with HHH's verdict. However, the manner in   
   which it doe not halt is not that HHH does not return to it. Rather the   
   simulated DD fails to halt because it reaches the do-the-opposite code,   
   where it enters into the loop.  THus, your HHH is "busted"! The   
   simulated HHH(DD) returned 1 to the simulated DD, even though the   
   directly executed HHH(DD) returned 0.   
      
   That's a damning inconsistency for which I am awaiting your explanation.   
      
   > Starting over with an embedded C interpreter could work   
      
   LOL! You don't think I (or someone else) could add the capability to   
   continue abandoned interpretations to a C interpreter?   
      
   > if it was not made moot by the above code snippet.   
      
   Without a concrete definition of HHH, you have jack squat.   
      
   With this latest narrative about these "15 lines" with no HHH   
   definition, which somehow figures out the halting of DD, you have   
   reached an unprecedented level of crankhood.   
      
   You might want to come down from crank mountain a few thousand feeet.   
      
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