XPost: comp.theory   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 10/28/2025 5:03 PM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:   
   > On 2025-10-28, olcott  wrote:   
   >> On 10/28/2025 4:43 PM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:   
   >>> On 2025-10-28, olcott  wrote:   
   >>>> On 10/28/2025 2:37 PM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2025-10-28, olcott  wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 10/28/2025 11:35 AM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 2025-10-28, olcott  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> Deciders only compute a mapping from their actual   
   >>>>>>>> inputs. Computing the mapping from non-inputs is   
   >>>>>>>> outside of the scope of Turing machines.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Calculating the halting of certain inputs is indeed impossible   
   >>>>>>> for some halting algorithms.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Not just impossible outside of the scope of every Turing machine.   
   >>>>>> Its the same kind of thing as requiring the purely mental object   
   >>>>>> of a Turing machine to bake a birthday cake.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It simply isn't. Inputs that are not correctly solvable by some   
   >>>>> deciders are decided by some others.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> THIS INPUT IS SOLVABLE   
   >>>> THE NON-INPUT IS OUT-OF-SCOPE   
   >>>>   
   >>>> DO I HAVE TO REPEAT THAT 10,000   
   >>>> TIME BEFORE YOU NOTICE THAT I EVER SAID IT ONCE?   
   >>>   
   >>> You have not said anything substantial about this even once.   
   >>   
   >> Do you understand that deciders only report on their inputs?   
   >   
   > I understand that there only exist inputs.   
   >   
      
   That's a crazy thing to say. I own a car and it is not an input.   
      
   > Do you understand that we can design a description language for   
   > Turing Machines in which any sequence of 1's and 0's is   
   > valid?   
   >   
   > Then all possible bit strings are valid inputs, making it   
   > redundant to emphasize that deciders only operate on inputs.   
   >   
      
   None-the-less I do have an important discovery in   
   computer science if you could only bother to pay   
   complete attention. That you tried to say that my   
   car does not exist shows a woeful lack of precision   
   in your choice of words.   
      
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