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   Chris M. Thomasson to olcott   
   Re: H(D) as simple as it gets   
   28 Oct 25 16:17:45   
   
   XPost: comp.theory   
   From: chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com   
      
   On 10/28/2025 2:40 PM, olcott wrote:   
   > On 10/28/2025 4:33 PM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:   
   >> On 2025-10-28, olcott  wrote:   
   >>> On 10/28/2025 3:37 PM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:   
   >>>> The above C violates a rule.   
   >>>   
   >>> I am providing the gist of the essence because   
   >>   
   >> C does not run on gists and essences, sorry.   
   >>   
   >   
   > In other words you are trying to get away with   
   > pretending that you are too damned stupid to   
   > do this execution trace in your head?   
   >   
   > int D()   
   > {   
   >    int Halt_Status = H(D);   
   >    if (Halt_Status)   
   >      HERE: goto HERE;   
   >    return Halt_Status;   
   > }   
   >   
   > H simulates D   
   > that calls H(D) to simulate D   
   > that calls H(D) to simulate D   
   > that calls H(D) to simulate D   
   > that calls H(D) to simulate D   
   > that calls H(D) to simulate D   
   > until H sees this repeating pattern.   
   >   
      
   So? You need to cover all the paths of DD, no? The halt and the non-halt   
   paths. Conclusion, DD can sometimes halt, other times not. H(D),   
   HH(DDD), lol.   
      
   Again, this D, what happened to DD or HHH for that matter? ;^o Anyway, D   
   is dependent on what H(D) returns. It can halt, or not halt. It sure   
   seems like my basic is a better decider than any H(D), H(DDDDF),   
   HHHHH(DDDDDDDD), HHH(DD), ect you can ever make?   
      
   1 HOME   
   5 PRINT "The Olcott All-in-One Halt Decider!"   
   10 INPUT "Shall I halt or not? " ; A$   
   30 IF A$ = "YES" GOTO 666   
   40 GOTO 10   
   666 PRINT "OK!"   
      
   DD, D, DDD, DDD_DDD_D, is dependent what your H, HH, HHH, HHHH, returns   
   anyway? ... Assuming you keep DD, D, DDD, ... as depending on what   
   HHH(DD) returns? It logic literally depends on H, HH, HHH, ...? So what?   
      
      
   You really need to keep unique version numbers, say:   
      
   H0, H1, H2  with D0, D1, D2, D3, D4, ...   
      
   Humm... ?   
      
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