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|    Chris M. Thomasson to David Brown    |
|    Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly rea    |
|    13 Nov 25 00:21:07    |
   
   XPost: comp.theory, comp.lang.c++   
   From: chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com   
      
   On 11/12/2025 11:54 PM, David Brown wrote:   
   > On 13/11/2025 05:36, olcott wrote:   
   >> On 11/12/2025 9:49 PM, Keith Thompson wrote:   
   >>> [...]   
   >>>   
   >>> I note that a substantial fraction of the articles recently posted   
   >>> to comp.lang.c (and probably comp.lang.c++) are cross-posted to   
   >>> comp.theory, and are about the Halting Problem.   
   >>>   
   >>> Some of these articles contain small fragments of C-like source code,   
   >>> but I suggest that doesn't make them either topical or interesting   
   >>> to most participants in the C and C++ newsgroups.   
   >>>   
   >>> I humbly suggest, yet again, that these discussions be restricted   
   >>> to comp.theory, and that users try to edit the "Newsgroups:" header   
   >>> even when replying to a cross-posted article.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> int D()   
   >> {   
   >> int Halt_Status = H(D);   
   >> if (Halt_Status)   
   >> HERE: goto HERE;   
   >> return Halt_Status;   
   >> }   
   >>   
   >> I would love to do that after one person confirms   
   >> that D simulated by H according to the semantics   
   >> of the C programming language cannot reach its   
   >> own "return" statement.   
   >>   
   >> People on all forums have been dodging that or   
   >> lying about that consistently for three years.   
   >>   
   >> I only came to this forum to get that one question   
   >> answered and until then I will keep repeating it   
   >> several times a day forever. Feel free to keep   
   >> ignoring it now that you know the consequences.   
   >>   
   >   
   > Given that you've been doing this for so many years, and got the same   
   > results every time - everyone disagrees with your fundamental concepts -   
   > what makes you think you can change people's minds by repeating the same   
   > questions and claims?   
   >   
   > If you are wrong, and everyone else is right, then you are wasting your   
   > time and everyone else's time.   
   >   
   > If you are right and everyone else is wrong, then your posts are /still/   
   > wasting your time and everyone else's time.   
   >   
   > If you are sure you are correct, you have to find a different way to   
   > prove it. How about you stop repeating yourself on Usenet groups   
   > (especially c.l.c and c.l.c++, but also comp.theory and other groups),   
   > and do something /useful/ with your breakthrough? You suggested your   
   > solution to the halting problem could lead to a universal truth   
   > identifier that would save the world. Surely that is more worthy of   
   > your time than beating your head against this wall? Give up on the   
   > ignorant masses here, and work with the LLM's that believe in you to   
   > create your truth identifier. When we hear on international news how it   
   > is changing the world, we'll get back to you and apologise for our lack   
   > of faith.   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >   
      
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