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   Message 241,945 of 243,242   
   olcott to Richard Harnden   
   Re: How to handle pathological cases (wa   
   13 Nov 25 09:28:56   
   
   XPost: comp.theory, comp.lang.c++   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 11/13/2025 6:14 AM, Richard Harnden wrote:   
   > On 13/11/2025 10:18, Janis Papanagnou wrote:   
   >> On 13.11.2025 08:54, David Brown wrote:   
   >>> On 13/11/2025 05:36, olcott wrote:   
   >>>> [...]   
   >>>   
   >>> Given that you've been doing this for so many years, and got the same   
   >>> results every time - everyone disagrees with your fundamental concepts -   
   >>> what makes you think you can change people's minds by repeating the same   
   >>> questions and claims?   
   >>>   
   >>> If you are wrong, and everyone else is right, then you are wasting your   
   >>> time and everyone else's time.   
   >>>   
   >>> If you are right and everyone else is wrong, then your posts are /still/   
   >>> wasting your time and everyone else's time.   
   >>>   
   >>> If you are sure you are correct, you have to find a different way to   
   >>> prove it.  [...and so on, in a (IMO hopeless) try to get through...]   
   >>   
   >> You're probably assuming a normal, non-pathological case, since   
   >> you're obviously trying it with sensible rational suggestions.   
   >>   
   >> If, for a moment, we'd presume - just as a working hypothesis - a   
   >> pathological case then all such tries and suggestions are likely   
   >> doomed to fail, and we need another way to handle that.   
   >>   
   >> So let's presume another hypothesis; making no replies to his posts   
   >> results in no pathological floods of such posts. - I invite you all   
   >> to do that so that we can see what happens, whether the hypothesis   
   >> is correct or not. - If we're lucky, at some point there will be   
   >> quietness again on this topic.   
   >>   
   >> And if he's still continuing just let a simple message-filter handle   
   >> that.   
   >   
   > "What to do when the trisector comes?"   
   >   
      
   typedef int (*ptr)();   
   int HHH(ptr P);   
      
   int DD()   
   {   
      int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);   
      if (Halt_Status)   
        HERE: goto HERE;   
      return Halt_Status;   
   }   
      
   int main()   
   {   
      HHH(DD);   
   }   
      
   This code has been fully operational   
   for three years so I know what it does.   
      
   That no one else has been able to confirm   
   that DD simulated by HHH cannot possibly   
   reach its own "return" instruction has been   
   the issue that everyone has ignored or lied   
   about for three years.   
      
   In other words you are trying to get away   
   with saying that you are an expert C programmer   
   that cannot possibly recognize a behavior pattern   
   that is isomorphic to infinite recursion.   
      
   > This is Google's AI summary, which will be an LLM, so I'm sure olcott   
   > will have no choice but to approve ...   
   >   
   > """   
   > When a "trisector" comes, which refers to someone who claims to have   
   > solved the impossible problem of trisecting an angle with only a compass   
   > and straightedge, you should politely disengage. Do not argue with them,   
   > but also do not try to "help" them or validate their work, as this can   
   > lead to frustration and conflict. Your best course of action is to   
   > detach yourself from the situation by moving away as quickly as possible.   
   >   
   > o Do not argue: The problem of angle trisection with only a compass and   
   > straightedge has been proven mathematically impossible. Engaging in a   
   > debate is likely to be unproductive and frustrating.   
   >   
   > o Do not try to help: Attempts to guide them or point out their errors   
   > are generally not effective and can be perceived as condescending.   
   >   
   > o Remove yourself from the situation: The most practical and respectful   
   > action is to end the conversation and move away from the person. The   
   > article "What to Do When the Trisector Comes" humorously suggests this   
   > involves using your legs to leave.   
   > """   
   >   
   >   
      
      
   --   
   Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius   
   hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer   
      
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