From: david.brown@hesbynett.no   
      
   On 23/11/2025 01:26, Paul Edwards wrote:   
   > "David Brown"  wrote in message   
   > news:10fekpt$mkk8$1@dont-email.me...   
   >   
   >> It is not at all clear to me what you are asking about here.  Indeed, I   
   >> do not think it is at all clear to /you/.  Have you tried talking   
   >> directly to someone who regularly uses a different alphabet - Greek,   
   >> Cyrillic, Hebrew, etc.?  Try to explain your idea to them and see what   
   >> they think.   
   >   
   > No. This IS my (apparently - next message) attempt to directly   
   > talk to someone.   
   >   
   Perhaps you should start by /talking/ to someone who works with multiple   
   languages and alphabets.  By "talk" I mean "talk" - in person - not   
   Usenet posts.  You need to be discussing this with people in the same   
   room, with hand-waving, white board scribbles, trying out sample   
   programs (from the user's viewpoint - the code is irrelevant).  You need   
   to talk to people who are fluent in English (so that you understand   
   them) and Greek or other languages, and who also know, help and interact   
   with people who /only/ speak Greek (or whatever) and not English.  You   
   can't communicate with the people you are trying to help here, so at   
   least talk to people who already help those users.   
      
   And you have to start by asking them "Is there a problem here?  How   
   could we make things easier for you?".   
      
   You seem to have started by imagining some kinds of users, imagining the   
   kinds of challenges they have, and imagining a solution for those   
   challenges with the priority firmly on what fits your pet "sort-of-C90"   
   concept rather than thinking about what these imaginary users might want.   
      
      
      
   Talking here to Janis is better than sitting by yourself and imagining   
   everything, but you have to start by thinking about the right questions.   
     Start at the right end - find out if there is a problem, what that   
   problem is, and how the user's experience can be improved.  Don't bother   
   asking Janis about his experiences - he doesn't have a problem because   
   he can switch keyboard layouts and has better English language skills   
   than most English language natives.  (I'm assuming here that Janis is   
   Greek by upbringing - perhaps he is only Greek by his family roots.)   
   You have to ask Janis if his great aunty has trouble interacting with   
   software written only for English speakers, and asking how you could   
   make things easier for her.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)