XPost: comp.theory, comp.lang.c++   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 11/23/2025 3:20 PM, joes wrote:   
   > Am Tue, 18 Nov 2025 21:07:35 -0600 schrieb olcott:   
   >> On 11/18/2025 8:53 PM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:   
   >>> On 2025-11-19, olcott wrote:   
   >   
   >>>> What The F does UTM decide when DD calls UTM(DD)?   
   >>>   
   >>> That doesn't happen; DD calls HHH(DD).   
   >>> A diagonal functon set against UTM, call it DDUTM, cannot be decided by   
   >>> UTM(DDUTM).   
   >>> That call simply does not return.   
   >>>   
   >> Yes, and the other one does return […]   
   >   
   > The other what? DDUTM is not DD.   
   >   
      
   *Just stick with these names and no other names*   
   *Just stick with these names and no other names*   
   *Just stick with these names and no other names*   
      
   template for hypothetical H and D   
      
    If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D   
    until H correctly determines that its simulated D would never   
    stop running unless aborted then   
      
    H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D   
    specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations.   
      
      
   https://github.com/plolcott/x86utm/blob/master/Halt7.c   
      
   HHH is a fully operational termination analyzer anchored   
   in the x86 language yet can be construed as simulating C   
   functions according to the semantics of the C programming   
   language because the x86 was code translated from C.   
      
   HHH1 exactly the same as HHH except that DD does not   
   call HHH. DD simulated by HHH1 has the exact same   
   behavior as DD executed from main().   
      
   typedef int (*ptr)();   
   int HHH(ptr P);   
   int HHH1(ptr P);   
      
   int DD()   
   {   
    int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);   
    if (Halt_Status)   
    HERE: goto HERE;   
    return Halt_Status;   
   }   
      
   int main()   
   {   
    HHH(DD);   
   }   
      
   HHH simulates DD that calls HHH(DD)   
   that simulates DD that calls HHH(DD)...   
      
   HHH1 simulates DD that calls HHH(DD) that   
   returns to DD that returns to HHH1.   
      
   The behavior of DD simulated by HHH1 is the   
   same as the behavior of DD() executed from main.   
      
   The sound basis of this reasoning is the   
   semantics of the C programming language.   
      
      
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