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|    Philipp Klaus Krause to All    |
|    Re: _BitInt(N)    |
|    03 Dec 25 09:23:38    |
      From: pkk@spth.de              Am 03.12.25 um 00:33 schrieb Keith Thompson:       >       > There have been actual uses of trigraphs. Richard Heathfield posted       > this on this newsgroup in 2010 :       >       > Yes, they are still needed, for example in some mainframe       > environments. They make the code look astoundingly ugly, but       > they do at least make it work. It is not uncommon for "normal"       > C code to be written and tested on PCs, then run through       > a conversion program to replace monographs with trigraphs       > where required before transfer to the mainframe for final       > testing. That way, you get the readability where it matters,       > and the usability where /that/ matters.       >       > But trigraphs have been removed in C23.       >              Yes; looking at the minutes now, I can see this was far more       controversial than what I remembered about trigraphs, and likely       wouldn't have happened if WG14 had required strong consensus then.              But I think Heathfields'd use case couls still work in C23 if we       consider that conversion program together with the compiler on the       mainframe to be the C implementation.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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