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   Janis Papanagnou to Michael S   
   Re: srand(0)   
   23 Dec 25 10:54:23   
   
   From: janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com   
      
   On 2025-12-23 10:18, Michael S wrote:   
   >   
   > When I need PRNG then I am typically not deeply concerned about size of   
   > its internal state. On the other hand, I don't want to care about   
   > potentially insufficient randomness of the output (not in crypto   
   > sense). On the 3rd hand, vectors that I generate with PRNG tend to be   
   > big and I don't like to wait, so I do care somewhat about speed.   
   > Those 3 factors together plus availability long ago made MT19937-64   
   > into my personal default PRNG of  choice.   
      
   I've never intensified my knowledge in direction of MT algorithms.   
      
   >   
   > MT19937-64 is available out of the box(*) in C++. But not in C,   
   > unfortunately.   
      
   This is really strange given that the name ("Mersenne Twister") is   
   that prominent.   
      
   Looking that up I find at least "C" code for MT19937 in Wikipedia   
   https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mersenne-Twister   
   It's based on 32 bit logic it seems; interpreting your "MT19937-64"   
   I assume you're looking for a 64 bit based version?   
      
   >   
   > At higher theoretical level MT is a generalization of LFSR, but it is   
   > not obvious when one looks at implementation.   
      
   Well, at least there's the 'mod' operations all based on powers of 2   
   along with all the binary op's which suggests some (non-arithmetic)   
   bit-register type of algorithm, but the multiplication with 0x9908b0df   
   (5 * 513496723) - which I'd suppose be hard to realize as/with LFSR -   
   may suggest some other generator type.   
      
   Janis   
      
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