From: already5chosen@yahoo.com   
      
   On Sat, 27 Dec 2025 00:29:47 -0600   
   Lynn McGuire  wrote:   
      
   > On 12/25/2025 2:49 AM, Michael S wrote:   
   > > On Thu, 25 Dec 2025 02:00:16 -0600   
   > > Lynn McGuire  wrote:   
   > >      
   > >> On 12/24/2025 11:11 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:     
   > >>> Lynn McGuire  writes:     
   > >>>> On 12/24/2025 12:22 AM, Keith Thompson wrote:     
   > >>>>> Lawrence D’Oliveiro  writes:     
   > >>>>>> On Tue, 18 Nov 2025 14:27:53 -0500, James Kuyper wrote:     
   > >>>>>>> Could you identify which document guarantees that every   
   > >>>>>>> Unicode locale contains "UTF-8"?     
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> How else would it work? Bytes have to be 8-bit.     
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> I can't figure out what point you're trying to make.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> Obviously bytes in C have to be *at least* 8 bits, but I don't   
   > >>>>> see the relevance.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> Take a look at the article to which you replied.  How does your   
   > >>>>> followup have anything to do with it?   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> One of several points that you snipped is that locale names can   
   > >>>>> contain the string "utf8", not "UTF-8".     
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> Did C never work on the 6 bit machines such as the Univac 1108   
   > >>>> (36 bit)     
   > >>>   
   > >>> Yes, there is a C compiler for the Univac machines.   The byte   
   > >>> size is 9 bits.     
   > >>   
   > >> I get the feeling that you are messing with me.  That would be   
   > >> four 9 bit characters per 36 bit word.   
   > >>   
   > >> But the machinations to store that unnatural 9 bits would be crazy.   
   > >> I doubt that would be supported in hardware.   
   > >>   
   > >> Lynn   
   > >>     
   > >    
   > > Does not the same apply even stronger to your original suggestion to   
   > > use 6-bit characters?     
   >    
   > Those 6 bit characters, upper case only, were on the 36 bit (Univac    
   > 1108) or 60 bit (CDC 7600) machines.  Those machines were native 6   
   > bit bytes, at 6 bytes per word or 10 bytes per word.   
   >    
      
   In what way were 6-bit bytes "native" ?   
   I don't know much about either machine and not in the mood to look up,   
   but would be surprised if it was much more than software convention.   
   Especially so in CDC case.   
      
   > Those machines were  with 8 bit    
   > characters.  And now we have the 64 bit machines with 8 bit   
   > characters.    
   >    
   > Lynn   
   >    
      
   I think that you are looking at it from the wrong angle. The right angle   
   is not "superseded by the 32 bit machines", but "word-addressable   
   machines were superseded by the octet-addressable machines".   
      
   > We will have 128 bit machines soon in the relative sense,   
   > if not already.   
      
   Using the way you look at it (width of machine = width of its widest   
   data register) we already have commodity general-purpose 512-bit   
   machines for exactly ten years.   
   But that's a wrong way to look.   
      
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