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   Message 242,984 of 243,242   
   James Russell Kuyper Jr. to Michael S   
   Re: On Undefined Behavior   
   12 Jan 26 20:29:40   
   
   From: jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu   
      
   On 2026-01-12 04:44, Michael S wrote:   
   ...   
   > Normally phrase "worshippers of nasal demons" in my posts refers to   
   > faction among developers and maintainers of gcc and clang compilers. I   
   > think that it's not an unusual use of the phrase, but I can be wrong   
   > about it.   
      
   Which faction would that be? I'm sure there's more than one to choose   
   from. An example of what they've done that, in your opinion, justifies   
   that description might also be helpful   
      
   ...   
   > AFAIK, you are not gcc or clang maintainer. So, not a "worshipper".   
   > When I want to characterize [in derogatory fashion] people that have no   
   > direct influence on behavior of common software tools, but share the   
   > attitude of "worshippers" toward UBs then I use phrase 'language   
   > lawyers'."language lawyers", at least, I understand, having frequently been   
   described as one myself. It means those who are knowledgeable about what   
   the standard allows and prohibits, both for programs and for   
   implementations. I'm no sure why you'd consider them "worshippers" of   
   UB; they are characterized as language lawyers because they know   
   precisely when the behavior is or is not UB - but that says nothing   
   about whether they approve of UB or not. They would still be language   
   lawyers whether they approved of UB, or despised it.   
      
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