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|    wij to James Kuyper    |
|    Re: Collatz Conjecture proved.    |
|    28 Jan 26 04:01:33    |
      From: wyniijj5@gmail.com              On Mon, 2026-01-26 at 21:18 -0500, James Kuyper wrote:       > On 26/01/2026 16:51, wij wrote:       > ...       > > https://sourceforge.net/projects/cscall/files/MisFiles/RealN       mber2-en.txt/download       > > 3. 1/3 = 0.333... + non-zero-remainder (True identity.       How to deny?)       > > How would you deny it, and call the cut-off 'equation' identity?       >        > I deny it easily - the remainder is exactly 0.       >        > > You cut off non-zero-remainder to stop repeating, so yes, you see the part       you       > > want to see, i.e. the front part without "...", and forgot the definition       > > "infinitely repeat" is invalidated.       >        > There's no non-zero-remainder to cut off, nor is there any need to stop       > repeating. It repeats endlessly, and it is only because of the endless       > repetition that the remainder is 0. If it ever ended, the remainder       > would be non-zero, as you claim.              Don't you see that you made a number of assertions beyond your standard allows.       "... can have smaller numerators and denominators..." ... How? Prove it, not       asserting it.              > The flaw is in your property 2, which claims that an infinite sum of       > rational numbers is not a rational number. That's unambiguously not the       > case in the standard real number system. Your proof of that claim is       > based upon asserting that the numerator and denominator of each step in       > the infinite series has a larger number of digits (which isn't       > necessarily true - but that's unimportant), but ignores the fact that       > the limit of an infinite sequence can have smaller numerators and       > denominators than the terms that make up the sequence.              Accordingly, I suppose you deny this passage:               // ... [cut]        1. If 0.999... = 1 holds, then it can be proved that the unique prime        factorization theorem of positive integers does not hold:        0.999... = 999.../1000... = 9*(111...)/(5*2)*... =1        <=> 3*3*(111...) = (5*2)*...        The integer to the left of the equal sign contains the prime number        3, but the integer to the right cannot contain 3... Prime        factorization is not unique.              > ...       > > Prop 2= Repeating Q+Q infinitely does not yield rational       number.       > > (precisely, positive rational number)       >        > I dispute the validity of the proof of Prop 2.              No problem, you just need to prove it yourself.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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