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|    wij to wij    |
|    Re: Collatz Conjecture proved.    |
|    30 Jan 26 08:29:40    |
      From: wyniijj5@gmail.com              On Mon, 2026-01-26 at 01:20 +0800, wij wrote:       > On Sun, 2026-01-25 at 11:25 -0500, James Kuyper wrote:       > > On Sun, 25 Jan 2026 13:28:31 +0800, wij wrote:       > >        > > > On Sat, 2026-01-24 at 23:06 -0500, James Kuyper wrote:       > > > >        > > > > This generalizes to work with any recurring decimal. When the       > > > > recurrence is n digits long (in the above example, n=2), just       > > > > multiply by 10^n.       > > >        > > > Such arithmetic is called approximation ...       > >        > > So what is, in your opinion, the exact representation of 4/33 as a       > > decimal fraction? Marking it as infinitely repeating means that it is       > > not in any sense an approximation - it is exact.       >        > You need to prove 4/33 exactly equal to 0.1212..., not approximation.       > But,...       >        > > If it were an       > > approximation, there would be a finite difference between 4/33 and       > > 0.1212.... How big is that difference? No matter how small of a finite       > > difference you might think it has, going to infinitely many decimal       > > digits makes the actual difference smaller than that.       >        > Yes, the same as infinity/infinitesimal.       >        > > Keep in mind that, in the absence of specification to the contrary,       > > we're talking about the standard real number system, not one of those       > > alternatives that extends the real number system by adding       > > infinitesimals, such as the surreals or the hyperreals.       >        > True if you are not referring to the current 'standard real number system'.       > What else? (doesn't sound to contain much information)       >        > The standard real number system is not a constant thing, it will correct       > itself. Not even religion is constant.       >        > To be explicitly 'C' related, I remember people talking about what INF        > should mean (an option may be merely for signifying overflow), I would       > suggest reserve the bit, not mixing with other meaning.              Prop2 had rewrote (easier for older high schools to understand).              https://sourceforge.net/projects/cscall/files/MisFiles/RealNumbe       2-en.txt/download       ....[cut]       Prop 2: ℚ+ℚ=ℚ (the sum of a rational number and a rational number is       still a        rational number). The statement holds only for a finite number of        addition steps.        Proof: The addition of positive rational number q is strictly increasing. The        result is either 'divergent' or 'convergent'. Both contain infinitely        long 'natural number' (otherwise they cannot be called 'convergent' or        'divergent').       ----------              Therefore, real number contains infinity (so infinitesimal).       So, INFINITY is another real number, don't mix it with something else.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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