XPost: comp.lang.fortran, comp.lang.c++   
   From: garylscott@sbcglobal.net   
      
   On 1/31/2026 12:50 PM, G wrote:   
   > In comp.lang.c David Brown  wrote:   
   >> On 30/01/2026 21:28, Thomas Koenig wrote:   
   >>> David Brown  schrieb:   
   >>> [...]   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>> IME, locale settings can be a bigger hinder than help, especially on   
   >>>> Windows and with MS Office.  If your program exports data in tab or   
   >>>> semicolon separated formats to be opened in a spreadsheet, or has some   
   >>>> other connection to MS Office programs, you have to use the formats that   
   >>>> the locale wants, not the formats the current user wants.   
   >>>   
   >>> That is so true.  Localization in MS Office is a pain, and the different   
   >>> CSV formats are horrible.   
   >>>   
   >>> On my personal PC, I have set the decimal separator, with German   
   >>> settings otherwise, to a dot.  This makes data interoperable   
   >>> with all sorts of scripts and other programs that I tend to use   
   >>> togetether with data from Excel files.  Using tab as a separator works   
   >>> pretty well then, it is at least unique.   
   >>>   
   >>> I do have another computer, used as a workstation, which I keep   
   >>> on US English settings.  This allows easier communication with,   
   >>> for example, international support for programs which originate   
   >>> outside of Germany.  It also allows me to have the original Excel   
   >>> function names, which are also localized.  Luckily, I can save   
   >>> an Excel file in English and than open it on my German-language   
   >>> computer in German.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>> (LibreOffice   
   >>>> is vastly more flexible.)  Displaying a decimal point, decimal colon, or   
   >>>> decimal apostrophe is not difficult - it is handling the imports and   
   >>>> exports that is the challenge.   
   >>>   
   >>> I have not yet succeeded in getting LibreOffice to display a decimal   
   >>> point with German settings, and when I use US English I get inches   
   >>> for paper sizes :-(   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Use UK settings, not US settings.  Then at least you get sane paper   
   >> sizes and measurement units.   
   >>   
   > and sane dates...   
      
   Date format is adjustable in many applications.  Choose the one you   
   want.  Flexibility is taken to a bit extreme in GINO graphics libraries   
   (a UK product), with a calendar that goes all the way back to 1066...:)   
      
   >   
   >> LibreOffice has its faults and weaknesses, but it is still far ahead of   
   >> MS Office in many aspects.  (Or perhaps "less terrible" is more accurate?)   
      
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