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   George Neuner to All   
   Re: apparently comp.arch, comp.lang.c++,   
   01 Nov 23 09:06:44   
   
   XPost: comp.lang.c++, comp.arch   
   From: gneuner2@comcast.net   
      
   On Wed, 1 Nov 2023 10:55:06 -0000 (UTC), John Levine    
   wrote:   
      
   >According to George Neuner  :   
   >>>Lynn   
   >>   
   >>You mean the spam floods that Google openly condones and possibly also   
   >>facilitates in order to promote its own group services?   
   >   
   >I think you vastly overestimate how much anyone at Google cares about Groups.   
   >The whole thing has been on autopilot for years, it can't possibly be making   
   >them enough money to deal with the hassle.   
      
   Maybe.  But remember that Google trades in eyeballs ... the money, in   
   some sense, is secondary.   
      
      
   "group" is overloaded.   
      
   Google Groups (GG) is a unified interface that provides access to   
   Usenet, public mailing lists, and to Google's own group services.   
      
   But there is a substantial difference: Google offers spam filtering to   
   its own groups, while denying it to others.   
      
      
   >FWIW I get plenty of spam directly from Groups when people yet again load   
   >up a spam list and blast out mail in languages I cannot read.   
      
   Sure it can happen.   
      
   GG's spam filtering has to be opted into by the group administrator.   
   However, there is no way provided for an outside group to do that, so   
   even those non-Google Usenet groups and mailing lists that /have/   
   living administrators have no way to opt into Google's spam filtering.   
      
   Also, my experience with GG has been that its spam filtering only   
   checks posts made via email (the "list" interface).  It seems that   
   posts made directly via the web UI are checked only for abusive   
   language (and then only in English), and once accepted they can be   
   removed only by the group adminstrator or via user complaints.   
      
      
   The major point here is that Google provides (some semblence of) spam   
   filtering - but only for its own groups.   
      
   YMMV.   
      
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