XPost: comp.lang.c++   
   From: lynnmcguire5@gmail.com   
      
   On 4/9/2025 7:35 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:   
   > On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 14:48:12 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 4/9/2025 2:18 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 15:06:06 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> I tried GFortran and GCC with Simply Fortran for a long while but the   
   >>>> debugging is simply horrible.   
   >>>   
   >>> Have you tried using the GNU tools (gfortran, gcc, gdb etc) directly,   
   >>> leaving out the Simply Fortran middleman?   
   >>   
   >> No, we want to get away from compiling and linking directly.  That is   
   >> what we use with Open Watcom F77 and C++.   
   >>   
   >> With over 5,000 subroutines, each in their own file, keeping track of   
   >> everything is difficult on a good day.   
   >   
   > This is why you have build systems.   
      
   I started using the first IDE (interactive development environment) in   
   1983 ??? with Turbo Pascal.  $49 IIRC.  It was a simply amazing way of   
   doing things.  Nowadays, Visual Studio comes closest to the Turbo Pascal   
   IDE but even it is not quite there.  Visual Studios lack of a decent   
   Fortran compiler sucks.   
      
   I moved back to build systems on the Apollo Domain in 1989 using DSEE   
   but it was a downer compared to Turbo Pascal.  It did allow multiple   
   user development teams to work together though.  We only had a few   
   hallway fights on code conflicts, most were resolved by DSEE.   
      
   Lynn   
      
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