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   Chris Ahlstrom to All   
   Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Comput   
   03 Feb 26 09:47:25   
   
   XPost: comp.lang.c++   
   From: OFeem1987@teleworm.us   
      
   🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote this post by blinking in Morse   
   code:   
      
   > W dniu 3.02.2026 o 09:54, Michael S pisze:   
   >> On Mon, 2 Feb 2026 21:02:51 +0100   
   >> 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> W dniu 24.01.2026 o 04:35, Lynn McGuire pisze:   
   >>>> One of my programmers has been working on converting our Windows   
   >>>> user interface, written in 450,000 lines of C++, from Ascii to   
   >>>> Unicode for two years now.  It was a one year project to start and   
   >>>> his latest estimate is another year to complete.   
      
   450K lines??? At a minute per line (assuming all lines need the   
   "fix") that's 312 days.   
      
   >>> I think that this task should be named "rewrite". But I recommended   
   >>> "clean up" instead. In the case "clean up" you have great opportunity   
   >>> to make your app far better than previous. Modern industry approach,   
   >>> is modularity. This is prove in many essential industry branch, and   
   >>> especially in IIww years.   
   >>   
   >> It seems to me that industry trend in GUI programming is to stay as far   
   >> away from C++ as possible.   
      
   :-D   
      
   >> JS is a king.   
   >> C#, Swift, Kotlin are second choice.   
   >> Even Java is still used for new development in this feild, despite   
   >> technically being almost as unsuitable as C++.   
      
   :-D   
      
          
      
   You do realize that C++ is used for performance, don't you.   
   That's helpful even in a GUI.   
      
   > This is just pure hype: Apps word does not end on Android (all its apps   
   > are written in some scripts lang)!!!   
   >   
   > There are many areas where normal C++ programs are needed, and are not   
   > replaceable due to their time critical nature.   
   > Even on desktop such simple app like text editor must be coded in C++   
   > because in JS (VS Code) programmers see noticeable lags. The same is   
   > true for huge programs like Text Processors, CAD, 3D Modeling, Graphic   
   > Editors, and many more.   
   >   
   > Summary: only silly apps can be write in JS (or in other scripting   
   > lang). Normal and professional programs must be written in compiling   
   > lang, like modern object-oriented C++.   
      
   Actually, Javascript is a decent language and even has some   
   object-oriented features. I had to use it pretty heavily in a   
   project at work years ago.   
      
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