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   Lynn McGuire to Michael S   
   Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Comput   
   04 Feb 26 16:55:28   
   
   XPost: comp.lang.c++   
   From: lynnmcguire5@gmail.com   
      
   On 2/4/2026 6:24 AM, Michael S wrote:   
   > On Tue, 3 Feb 2026 17:28:35 -0600   
   > Lynn McGuire  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2/3/2026 2:54 AM, Michael S wrote:   
   >>> On Mon, 2 Feb 2026 21:02:51 +0100   
   >>> 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> W dniu 24.01.2026 o 04:35, Lynn McGuire pisze:   
   >>>>> One of my programmers has been working on converting our Windows   
   >>>>> user interface, written in 450,000 lines of C++, from Ascii to   
   >>>>> Unicode for two years now.  It was a one year project to start and   
   >>>>> his latest estimate is another year to complete.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I think that this task should be named "rewrite". But I recommended   
   >>>> "clean up" instead. In the case "clean up" you have great   
   >>>> opportunity to make your app far better than previous. Modern   
   >>>> industry approach, is modularity. This is prove in many essential   
   >>>> industry branch, and especially in IIww years.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> It seems to me that industry trend in GUI programming is to stay as   
   >>> far away from C++ as possible.   
   >>> JS is a king.   
   >>> C#, Swift, Kotlin are second choice.   
   >>> Even Java is still used for new development in this feild, despite   
   >>> technically being almost as unsuitable as C++.   
   >>> But C++ is strictly legacy, no new, from scratch GUI development is   
   >>> done in this language for something like 15 years.   
   >>>   
   >>> Of course, the statement above is "at large". The world is a big   
   >>> place and one can always find one developer or one hundred or ten   
   >>> thousands that make unusual sub-optimal choices.   
   >>   
   >> I am swinging huge datasets for simulation models from 1 MB to 1,000   
   >> MB. Nothing besides C++ has the oomph and speed to make this happen.   
   >>   
   >> Lynn   
   >>   
   >   
   > I am not sure what "swinging" means in this context and whether other   
   > languages can do it or not (at very least, anything related to speed   
   > that C++ can do, C can do as well, but I would be very surprised if   
   > there no other options beyond C).   
   > But all that sounds off topic.   
   > The topic is user interface code (a.k.a. GUI) rather than "swinging".   
   > C++ used to be a popular choice for coding user interfaces, but it   
   > ceased to be popular long time ago.   
      
   My variant of "swinging" means to load an entire dataset into memory   
   which used to be very common for desktop software like mine.   
      
   Lynn   
      
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