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   Scott Dorsey to yeti@tilde.institute   
   Re: 50 years ago, CP/M started the micro   
   12 Aug 24 15:03:21   
   
   From: kludge@panix.com   
      
   yeti   wrote:   
   >"internetado"  writes:   
   >   
   >> Had Digital Research, the company CP/M   
   >> creator Gary Kildall set up to sell CP/M, accepted the deal with IBM   
   >> to make CP/M the default operating system for the then newly-created   
   >> IBM PC, we'd be living in a very different world today.   
      
   You could get CP/M-86 with the PC for a small fee, or PC-DOS for free,   
   or a couple other options including the UCSD P-System.  Most people got   
   MS-DOS because they didn't have a need or know about the software available   
   already for CP/M-86.  Note that what was available for CP/M-86 was a tiny   
   fraction of what was available for CP/M 2.2 on the 8080, even if it was a   
   lot more than was available for CP/M-68K.   
      
   >CP/M was reimplemented by Seattle Computer Products as "Quick and Dirty   
   >Operation System"[0] and later Microsoft bought it and stripped the   
   >"Quick and" and kept DOS as name.  Shouldn't that once and forever   
   >explain how to read the "D" of "DOS"?  o;-)   
      
   I wouldn't call Q-DOS and the later PC-DOS reimplementations of CP/M.   
   The user interface was more or less modelled on CP/M but with a lot of   
   important things done wrong because the people who did it didn't really   
   understand CP/M and because engineers shouldn't write code.   
      
   It does have lineage from CP/M but less than the lineage CP/M has from   
   RT-11.  Notice that you use the PIP command to copy files in CP/M like   
   in RT-11 while PC-DOS introduces COPY, for instance.   
      
   >I used CP/M-Z80 for a while and when MSDOS appeared, I avoided it for a   
   >long time, but when I finally had to do some stuff on it, I immediately   
   >felt kind of at home due to the similar structure of the OS function   
   >calls.  That felt strange.  Maybe even a bit shady.   
      
   It's less like RT-11, sadly.  And the memory map is very strange to someone   
   used to writing CP-M 2.2 code.   
   --scott   
   --   
   "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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