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   D to Julius Bernotas   
   Re: Telegram Founder Pavel Durov Arreste   
   27 Aug 24 13:58:44   
   
   From: noreply@mixmin.net   
      
   On 27 Aug 2024 11:48:15 GMT, Julius Bernotas  wrote:   
   >Anton Shepelev  writes:   
   >>D. Ray:   
   >>> Telegram founder Pavel Durov was arrested in France on   
   >>> Saturday allegedly as part of an investigation into his   
   >>> platform for not having enough "moderation."   
   >   
   >>It is not so much about moderation as about his pricipal   
   >>refusal to disclose the encryption keys to third parties   
   >>(including the Russian government).   
   >>Considering the extensive use of Telegram by the Russian   
   >>military as a means of secure communication on the Ukrainian   
   >>front (for lack of a better one), the sad joke here is the   
   >>they arrested our Chief of Communications.  Rumours have it   
   >>that Durov has anticipated his arrest and activated a   
   >>security protocol ensuring the French not get access.   
   >   
   >IIRC Telegram's founder originally fled Russia and went to Israel.   
   >The Russian authorities had difficulties tracking down people   
   >who were writing things that were against the official line   
   >of the regime on Telegram. So the Russian authorities got annoyed   
   >by Telegram and Telegram's founder had to flee Russia.   
   >The Russian authorities even slowed down the speed of   
   >internet connections to Telegram's servers inside Russia   
   >on February 2022 and in the 6 following months. I wonder   
   >if the internet speed for connections to Telegram's servers is   
   >still artificially being slowed down.   
   >I'm trying to figure out whether   
   >I understand you correctly. Are you saying that Telegram   
   >is an official means of communication for the Russian military   
   >on the Ukrainian front? Or are you saying that Telegram is used   
   >on the front as a normal means of communication? Used mainly   
   >by soldiers. To keep in touch with their circle of friends. Any   
   >people anywhere in the world would use Telegram to keep in touch with   
   >their circle of friends. Not just Russian soldiers on the Ukrainian   
   >front. And are you saying that Telegram is not a means of   
   >communication used by Russian military officials on the   
   >Ukrainian front? To transmit orders for example.   
      
   =-6667 Header {^Path: .*news.dfncis.de}   
   # mnemonic "third part", mutable, siva   
      
   why would anyone, military or otherwise, use open channels, public   
   social media for example, to communicate top-secret/sensitive data,   
   entrusting corporate criminals with encryption? ...pigs have wings   
      
   as a casual user of remailers for posting to newsgroups, "privacy"   
   is a simple matter, because none of the plain text content posted   
   to these unmoderated newsgroup forums requires decryption to read;   
   but some users may have more serious concerns about prevention of   
   "unauthorized" access to unencrypted content regardless of format   
   or function, in such cases "whole message encryption" is strongly   
   recommended . . . see https://www.danner-net.de/omom/tutorwme.htm   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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