XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy, misc.news.internet.discuss
From: snipeco.2@gmail.com
yeti wrote:
> snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
>
>
> /!\ The following should be read with a mix of panic and a smile; you
> decide, what to apply to which parts.
>
>
> > ISTM that a secure payload would need to be encrypted on a stand-alone
> > machine, air-gapped and never to be connected online.
>
> There are many ways even air-gapped systems can or do leak data, that
> may leak the keys or partial information about them.
>
> IMO every system that exists on the same side of the singularities as we
> do *is* connected with the rest. It just may be harder to get the data
> you want.
>
> We had leaking CRTs which could be read over a distance, AM leaks using
> rhythms of loops while computing, blinking drive LEDs, RPM modulated
> fans, ultrasonic connections between laptops in exams, and additionally
> we are in the
>
> __ __ ___ _ _ _____ __ ___ _ _ _
> | \/ |_ _| \| |_ _\ \/ / |_ _|_ _ __(_)__| |___| |
> | |\/| || || .` || | > < | || ' \(_-< / _` / -_)_|
> |_| |_|___|_|\_|___/_/\_\ |___|_||_/__/_\__,_\___(_)
>
>
> era and I definitely will not bet that ARM and RISCV chips or even FPGAs
> don't come "pre-infected" in a comparable way. So who knows which
> Gremlins in other chips are able to play e.g. modem over power-line and
> whatnot.
>
> So better assume that every system that is not made exclusively from
> logic gates[0] you've baked yourself in your kitchen already comes
> infected with spy hard- and software. And thinking about this shouldn't
> stop without a look at the power supply[1]. Some leaks still may exist
> no matter what you use to build the gates, but at least the foreign
> gremlins would stay outside.
>
>
> TL;DR:
> __ __ _ _ _ _ _ _
> \ \ / /__( )_ _ ___ __| |___ ___ _ __ ___ __| | | | |
> \ \/\/ / -_)/| '_/ -_) / _` / _ \/ _ \ ' \/ -_) _` |_|_|_|
> \_/\_/\___| |_| \___| \__,_\___/\___/_|_|_\___\__,_(_|_|_)
>
Yes, exactly so; I agree that we're doomed (just like always...) ≈:o(
I suppose I'll just have to invest in a sound-proofed anechoic chamber
inside a Faraday shield and power my stand-alone 'puter with batteries
using only left-handed electrons.
On the other hand I may just shrug my shoulders and accept that
privacy is dead, long dead, and it ain't coming back.
As I said at the outset: anything viewable in clear on a networked
device is vulnerable to observation and the quality of message
encryption is moot, not to say futile.
> ____________
>
>
> [0]: Jeri Makes Integrated Circuits
> 0>
>
> Transistor Fabrication: So Simple A Child Can Do It
> hild-can-do-it/>
>
> LLTP - Light Logic Transistorless Processor
> rocessor>
>
> Mechanical Logic Gates With Amplification
> ation/>
>
> [1]: Charging An Electric Supercar With Lemons, Kids, And The Sun
> -kids-and-the-sun/>
--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, VC, PTB, FIBS
My pet rock Gordon eagerly awaits the expected socialist paradise.
--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)
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