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   Carlos E.R. to Charlie Gibbs   
   Re: the early teletype   
   15 Nov 24 14:42:25   
   
   XPost: alt.folklore.computers   
   From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2024-11-15 00:11, Charlie Gibbs wrote:   
   > On 2024-11-14, Sn!pe  wrote:   
   >   
   >> Lawrence D'Oliveiro  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:19:48 +0000, Sn!pe wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:45:48 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Original Teletype machines ran at 45.45 baud.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I remember labels on Creed machines saying "50Bd".   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I had a Creed 7B 60 years ago, I used it for RTTY.  It had two   
   >>>> governers, one for 45.45 Bd, the other for 50Bd.  They had white   
   >>>> strobe marks on the circumference to set the speed accurately.   
   >>>   
   >>> Hmmm ... presumably the strobe marks were for use with a fluorescent   
   >>> light ... driven from AC mains frequency? Did they have different marks   
   >>> for 50Hz versus 60Hz mains?   
   >>>   
   >>> No, that wouldn't work, you would need entirely different gearing for the   
   >>> strobe wheel ...   
   >>   
   >> IIRC 50Bd was the US standard, most common in the rest of the world   
   >> was 45.45Bd  There was no gearing involved, the governor was attached   
   >> directly to the motor spindle and the strobe timing marks were on the   
   >> governors themselves.  I think (I'm not sure) that there were a   
   >> different number of strobe marks on either governor.   
   >>   
   >> I speak from personal experience but it was 60 years ago when I was   
   >> a teenager and memory is a tricky thing.   
   >   
   > To further muddy the waters, 45.45 baud was just an average.   
   > Start and data pulses were 22 milliseconds long, while the   
   > stop pulse was 31 milliseconds.  (I guess the mechanism wasn't   
   > quite fast enough to process the received bits...)   
   >   
   > Damn, the things one remembers...   
      
   They were in use at my time, somewhere, but I never saw one. Faxes were   
   what they used.   
      
   Did teletypes use phone lines, with an audio coupler? Or dedicated lines?   
      
   --   
   Cheers, Carlos.   
      
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