From: dnomhcir@gmx.com   
      
   Richmond  writes:   
      
   > Sylvia Else  writes:   
   >   
   >> On 24-Jan-25 3:33 am, Ivan Shmakov wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 2025-01-21, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> Salvador Mirzo  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> Sylvia Else  writes:   
   >>>   >>> How is this going to '"better protect" Google Search against   
   >>>   >>> malicious activity, such as bots and spam'?   
   >>>   >> I believe the idea is that if the robot doesn't speak   
   >>> Javascript,   
   >>>   >> it's an easy denial by the web server.  And making bots speak   
   >>>   >> Javascript is one step up.  And with Javascript they can likely   
   >>>   >> monitor things like mouse movement to detect whether the user   
   >>>   >> is a human or a robot.   
   >>>   > Which of course is one of Google's main businesses, with their   
   >>>   > Captchas that don't always need to show a puzzle in order to   
   >>>   > validate users as humans.  So if anyone _thinks_ they can achieve   
   >>>   > that, you'd expect it to be Google.   
   >>> 	And they don't even need it to be perfect: a robot that   
   >>> 	implements the relevant browser APIs, while possible, /will/   
   >>> 	be costlier to run and maintain, thus reducing the profits of   
   >>> 	the robot operators, in turn disincentivizing them.   
   >>> 	Even if that doesn't solve the problem altogether, it will   
   >>> 	still likely result in less load for their servers.   
   >>> 	Not that it invalidates any other reasons they might want to   
   >>> 	require Javascript / APIs regardless, mind you.   
   >>   
   >> A bot only needs to be able to send the correct data to the   
   >> server. how difficult that is obviously depends on the details of the   
   >> Javascript's interactions with the server, but frequent interactions   
   >> themselves create a higher server load.   
   >>   
   >> One example would be the mouse-movement based human detection. If the   
   >> script just sends a yes/no message to the server, then the bot doesn't   
   >> need to try to emulate a human at all.   
   >>   
   >> Sylvia.   
   >   
   > That's useful. I set my Seamonkey user agent string to a Lynx user agent   
   > string and now google search works without javascript.   
      
   Sorry, I replied to the wrong article.   
      
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