From: snipeco.2@gmail.com   
      
   Adrian  wrote:   
      
   > In message , D   
   >  writes   
   > >   
   > >   
   > >On Mon, 17 Feb 2025, Adrian wrote:   
   > >   
   > >> In message <0310a638-3153-f886-5206-9bc8453c1f8e@example.net>, D   
   > >> writes   
   > >>> I'm more scared about the government than the industry. With   
   > >>>industry I  always have the choice of not using it, and they depend   
   > >>>on customers, so in  the end, that protects me.   
   > >>>   
   > >>   
   > >> Depending on what you mean by choosing not to use it.   
   > >>   
   > >> I don't use any of the Meta products, but they still know about me as   
   > >>"friends" have uploaded pictures of me to facebook, or their contacts   
   > >>lists  to whatsapp.   
   > >>   
   > >> Adrian   
   > >   
   > >Why would they do that? It does not sound like friends to me, since   
   > >they do not respect your wishes, nor your privacy.   
   > >   
   >   
   > Note my use of "friends" not friends.  When I asked why I was told that   
   > what I don't know can't hurt me.   
   >   
   > As for whatsapp, as I understand it, it is all or nothing thing about   
   > what it uploads, and some of them are people that I work with, so we   
   > need each others phone numbers whilst working.  They think I'm odd for   
   > not using it.   
   >   
   > Adrian   
      
   I don't think you're odd at all, Adrian, I have exactly the same   
   concerns as you; I too shun all Meta products. I use Signal   
   (open source, non-proprietary) for stuff that would otherwise be   
   on Whatsapp and I've persuaded people who want to communicate with   
   me in that way to use it.  Mostly it's just my family sharing videos,   
   etc.  I can imagine that it might be different getting colleagues to   
   do that.   
      
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