From: nospam@example.net   
      
   On Tue, 18 Feb 2025, Sn!pe wrote:   
      
   > Adrian  wrote:   
   >   
   >> In message , D   
   >>  writes   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> On Mon, 17 Feb 2025, Adrian wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> In message <0310a638-3153-f886-5206-9bc8453c1f8e@example.net>, D   
   >>>>  writes   
   >>>>> I'm more scared about the government than the industry. With   
   >>>>> industry I  always have the choice of not using it, and they depend   
   >>>>> on customers, so in  the end, that protects me.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Depending on what you mean by choosing not to use it.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I don't use any of the Meta products, but they still know about me as   
   >>>> "friends" have uploaded pictures of me to facebook, or their contacts   
   >>>> lists  to whatsapp.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Adrian   
   >>>   
   >>> Why would they do that? It does not sound like friends to me, since   
   >>> they do not respect your wishes, nor your privacy.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Note my use of "friends" not friends.  When I asked why I was told that   
   >> what I don't know can't hurt me.   
   >>   
   >> As for whatsapp, as I understand it, it is all or nothing thing about   
   >> what it uploads, and some of them are people that I work with, so we   
   >> need each others phone numbers whilst working.  They think I'm odd for   
   >> not using it.   
   >>   
   >> Adrian   
   >   
   > I don't think you're odd at all, Adrian, I have exactly the same   
   > concerns as you; I too shun all Meta products. I use Signal   
   > (open source, non-proprietary) for stuff that would otherwise be   
   > on Whatsapp and I've persuaded people who want to communicate with   
   > me in that way to use it.  Mostly it's just my family sharing videos,   
   > etc.  I can imagine that it might be different getting colleagues to   
   > do that.   
      
   Note that signals backend is not open source. The backend software might   
   be, but we have no direct access to their implementation and running of   
   it.   
      
   That said however, I trust them way more than FB, and I think they have   
   high ethical standards, so I would not worry about it.   
      
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