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   D to Salvador Mirzo   
   Re: Schneier, Data and Goliath: no hope    
   20 Feb 25 16:14:57   
   
   From: nospam@example.net   
      
   On Wed, 19 Feb 2025, Salvador Mirzo wrote:   
      
   > Adrian  writes:   
   >   
   >> I thought about that.  The thing is that 3 years ago we seemed to   
   >> manage happily without it, but one person changing job meant that it   
   >> now seems to be essential.  I've asked higher ups why we now seem to   
   >> have a defacto requirement to use WA, but no one seems to know.  And I   
   >> don't see why I should buy a second phone (and ongoing costs with   
   >> running it) for what this year is likely to be 10 days use.   
   >   
   > I totally agree that it's absurd.  But it's essentially a war and a   
   > second phone is a weapon.   
   >   
   >>> I use the same technique with email. I have a spam-email that   
   >>> currently has around 20k spam messages in it, and this is the one   
   >>> most companies get.   
   >>   
   >> I have my own domain.  Companies usually get a unique email   
   >> address. Those that abuse it, or leak it, are soon found out, and may   
   >> lose business as a result.   
   >   
   > And I think we have to take back this spirit of running the Internet   
   > ourselves.  Remember---we are the ones that really know how to run it,   
   > not Whatsapp, Facebook users.  So I think we all should host our own   
   > mail again, host our own code, our own NNTP servers, our own mailing   
   > lists...   
   >   
   > I also feel that things are changing.  To what I don't know, but   
   > essentially when the changes become more clear, we'd be ourselves ready   
   > with solutions and also not worried that we're helping the movement   
   > that's hurting us.  It feels great to realize that we don't put in even   
   > a cent towards this movement.   
   >   
      
   This is my idea on how to counter the laws all around the world that seek   
   to forbid encryption. There is safety in numbers, and completely   
   impossible for the authorities to arrest 10s or 100s of thousands of   
   people.   
      
   My dream is that people will start to use small self-hosted, end-to-end   
   encrypted chat services, so that the laws forbidding encryption become   
   meaningless.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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