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   Salvador Mirzo to Salvador Mirzo   
   Re: Schneier, Data and Goliath: no hope    
   20 Feb 25 18:01:53   
   
   From: smirzo@example.com   
      
   Salvador Mirzo  writes:   
      
   > D  writes:   
   >   
   >> On Wed, 20 Feb 2025, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:   
   >>>> In comp.misc, Computer Nerd Kev  wrote:   
   >>>>> Indeed, so long as you block all FB's scripts and images on   
   >>>>> otherwise unrelated websites. Although I don't tend to make close   
   >>>>> friends so I don't need to worry about controlling their FB usage.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Doesn't stop people from posting about you on FB. (Or worse, posting   
   >>>> photos of you on there.)   
   >>>   
   >>> What I don't tell, they can't post, and the same with what they   
   >>> don't photograph. Although I guess that does leave a bit of an   
   >>> information vacuum there which some nutcase could exploit to make   
   >>> up missing personal info/photos on me if they so desired.   
   >>>   
   >>>>> Quite mysteriously, all sorts of otherwise respectable open-source   
   >>>>> software developers are happy to use GitHub even though it's owned   
   >>>>> by M$. So even having ditched their software long ago, M$ are now   
   >>>>> very hard to avoid online if, ironically, you want to use, and   
   >>>>> especially work on, open-source software. I find that truely   
   >>>>> unfathomable, but others barely seem to see my problem with it.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Many, I suspect, started using Github before Microsoft bought them in   
   >>>> 2018.   
   >>>   
   >>> For software projects I use, many more seem to have moved to there   
   >>> since 2018 than before. You'd think they like the M$ acquisition.   
   >>> Occasionally I object and am ignored.   
   >>   
   >> You have been heard! I will not be hosting my stuff on github. On the   
   >> other hand, I have nothing interesting to host, so perhaps a moot   
   >> point. ;) My home made scripts and little utilities live on my laptop   
   >> and sometimes on my server, and are shared upon request.   
   >   
   > I think most little scripts should be documented (with a manual) and put   
   > online.  It will make it easier for others to use and it will certainly   
   > encourage others to improve it and share the improvement.  So you could   
   > see your little script turn into a nice polished program simply because   
   > someone saw the idea and knew what to do to make it a lot better.  Could   
   > be a good source of joy.   
   >   
   > One time I wrote a function---just a function---and added to some   
   > archive online.  This was a pretty niche programming language.  Years   
   > later, I looked it up---I was still called the author of the function,   
   > but the code was completely rewritten, with much more expertise   
   > knowledge.  I thought it was ironic that my name was still there.  We   
   > value the pioneer perhaps too much.   
   >   
   >>>> Lately I've been seeing people advocating for a switch to   
   >>>> Codeberg.   
   >>>   
   >>> I don't know about Codeberg, but there have been lots of   
   >>> alternatives all along. Tons of projects switched from SourceForge   
   >>> to GitHub. Many projects have their own websites too, so why not   
   >>> self-host? GitHub do offer a lot of extra features for free, but   
   >>> that's dealing with the devil IMHO. Especially as the more tied in   
   >>> to GitHub-specific systems a project gets, the less practical it is   
   >>> to move away if M$ get more greedy later on.   
   >>   
   >> I have heard about gitea. It seems as if it allows you to setup   
   >> graphical git hosting yourself. I personally use a fossil repository   
   >> accessible only over ssh. I don't use any of the wiki/ticket/chat   
   >> functionality included in it.   
   >   
   > There's Forgejo, too.  It looks very good.  Like in Github, you can   
   > disable all such modules---wiki, ticket system et cetera.   
      
   Sorry---you'd have to switch to git.  I don't think Gitea or Forgejo   
   work with fossil.  But fossil has its own web server, so you'd be fine   
   with it, too.   
      
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