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   Computer Nerd Kev to Scott Dorsey   
   Re: Why The US Doesn't Stand A Chance   
   21 Feb 25 08:57:19   
   
   From: not@telling.you.invalid   
      
   Scott Dorsey  wrote:   
   > You don't START by building a state of the art nanometer fab.  You start   
   > by making cheap opamps and TTL glue chips and once you have that down you   
   > work up.   
      
   I think the USA never left that space. Texas Instruments has six   
   fabs in the USA, oldest built in 1966 and newest in 2022. That   
   said, they've also got one in China and last time I bought from   
   them (directly) the parcel came from Shanghai.   
      
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_semiconductor_fabrication_plants   
      
   > But you want to do that in a place where there is surplus hardware,   
   > readily available supplies, and local expertise.  Attempts to start at the   
   > top invariably end in failure too.   
      
   Intel appear to have a lot of fabs in the USA already "at the top"   
   in terms of nm. But then we keep hearing that they're about to go   
   broke, so maybe that's part of their problem (or it's what Trump's   
   about to change?).   
      
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