From: smirzo@example.com   
      
   D writes:   
      
   > On Thu, 20 Feb 2025, Salvador Mirzo wrote:   
   >   
   >> Salvador Mirzo writes:   
   >>   
   >>> D writes:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Wed, 20 Feb 2025, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:   
   >>>>>> In comp.misc, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:   
   >>>>>>> Indeed, so long as you block all FB's scripts and images on   
   >>>>>>> otherwise unrelated websites. Although I don't tend to make close   
   >>>>>>> friends so I don't need to worry about controlling their FB usage.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Doesn't stop people from posting about you on FB. (Or worse, posting   
   >>>>>> photos of you on there.)   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> What I don't tell, they can't post, and the same with what they   
   >>>>> don't photograph. Although I guess that does leave a bit of an   
   >>>>> information vacuum there which some nutcase could exploit to make   
   >>>>> up missing personal info/photos on me if they so desired.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Quite mysteriously, all sorts of otherwise respectable open-source   
   >>>>>>> software developers are happy to use GitHub even though it's owned   
   >>>>>>> by M$. So even having ditched their software long ago, M$ are now   
   >>>>>>> very hard to avoid online if, ironically, you want to use, and   
   >>>>>>> especially work on, open-source software. I find that truely   
   >>>>>>> unfathomable, but others barely seem to see my problem with it.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Many, I suspect, started using Github before Microsoft bought them in   
   >>>>>> 2018.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> For software projects I use, many more seem to have moved to there   
   >>>>> since 2018 than before. You'd think they like the M$ acquisition.   
   >>>>> Occasionally I object and am ignored.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You have been heard! I will not be hosting my stuff on github. On the   
   >>>> other hand, I have nothing interesting to host, so perhaps a moot   
   >>>> point. ;) My home made scripts and little utilities live on my laptop   
   >>>> and sometimes on my server, and are shared upon request.   
   >>>   
   >>> I think most little scripts should be documented (with a manual) and put   
   >>> online. It will make it easier for others to use and it will certainly   
   >>> encourage others to improve it and share the improvement. So you could   
   >>> see your little script turn into a nice polished program simply because   
   >>> someone saw the idea and knew what to do to make it a lot better. Could   
   >>> be a good source of joy.   
   >>>   
   >>> One time I wrote a function---just a function---and added to some   
   >>> archive online. This was a pretty niche programming language. Years   
   >>> later, I looked it up---I was still called the author of the function,   
   >>> but the code was completely rewritten, with much more expertise   
   >>> knowledge. I thought it was ironic that my name was still there. We   
   >>> value the pioneer perhaps too much.   
   >>>   
   >>>>>> Lately I've been seeing people advocating for a switch to   
   >>>>>> Codeberg.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I don't know about Codeberg, but there have been lots of   
   >>>>> alternatives all along. Tons of projects switched from SourceForge   
   >>>>> to GitHub. Many projects have their own websites too, so why not   
   >>>>> self-host? GitHub do offer a lot of extra features for free, but   
   >>>>> that's dealing with the devil IMHO. Especially as the more tied in   
   >>>>> to GitHub-specific systems a project gets, the less practical it is   
   >>>>> to move away if M$ get more greedy later on.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I have heard about gitea. It seems as if it allows you to setup   
   >>>> graphical git hosting yourself. I personally use a fossil repository   
   >>>> accessible only over ssh. I don't use any of the wiki/ticket/chat   
   >>>> functionality included in it.   
   >>>   
   >>> There's Forgejo, too. It looks very good. Like in Github, you can   
   >>> disable all such modules---wiki, ticket system et cetera.   
   >>   
   >> Sorry---you'd have to switch to git. I don't think Gitea or Forgejo   
   >> work with fossil. But fossil has its own web server, so you'd be fine   
   >> with it, too.   
   >   
   > This is the truth. I'm a contrarian kind of guy, so when the world   
   > goes git, I go fossil. ;) Jokes aside, I like the concept of one   
   > binary and how it works for my own personal use case.   
      
   I went fossil when I had to teach a class. I thought git was more   
   complicated than fossil. But it turns out that fossil was seen as   
   crazily complicated by nearly all students (anyway). I think fossil is   
   just fine, though I confess I prefer the file system over a database.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
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