From: smirzo@example.com   
      
   snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) writes:   
      
   > Salvador Mirzo  wrote:   
   >   
   >> D  writes:   
   >>   
   >> [...]   
   >>   
   >> > My dream is that people will start to use small self-hosted,   
   >> > end-to-end encrypted chat services, so that the laws forbidding   
   >> > encryption become meaningless.   
   >> >   
   >>   
   >> That's my idea, too.  I don't think the USENET is actually a perfect   
   >> project.  I think communities should not too large.  So I think we   
   >> should build more NNTP servers to be used by small communities.  And   
   >> then these servers should have a standard API so that an index could be   
   >> created somewhere where people can discover communities.   
   >>   
   >> Imagine how many closed NNTP servers, mailing lists are out there and   
   >> nobody knows.   
   > [...]   
   >   
   > Closed NNTP newsservers are not Usenet, just local proprietary news.   
   > They're operated by a server owner who has the power of booting users   
   > off his server if he doesn't like their opinions.  Those users have no   
   > alternative server to use for those local groups so they've effectively   
   > been censored, exactly like web forums with a cadre of moderators.   
   >   
   > With Usenet there are many servers, each carrying a subset of groups   
   > from the full group list.  If a server operator TOSes a user they're at   
   > liberty to use another service and still access their groups uncensored.   
      
   That's right.  But I think we need the closed ones too.  But I also   
   think the closed ones are a good way to show people that there's   
   something out there that's the USENET.  So if they every get censored on   
   a closed NNTP server, they could still go to a USENET server and still   
   have a community they can't be banned from.   
      
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