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   D to Salvador Mirzo   
   Re: Schneier, Data and Goliath: no hope    
   21 Feb 25 11:04:01   
   
   From: nospam@example.net   
      
   On Thu, 20 Feb 2025, Salvador Mirzo wrote:   
      
   > snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) writes:   
   >   
   >> Salvador Mirzo  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> D  writes:   
   >>>   
   >>> [...]   
   >>>   
   >>>> My dream is that people will start to use small self-hosted,   
   >>>> end-to-end encrypted chat services, so that the laws forbidding   
   >>>> encryption become meaningless.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> That's my idea, too.  I don't think the USENET is actually a perfect   
   >>> project.  I think communities should not too large.  So I think we   
   >>> should build more NNTP servers to be used by small communities.  And   
   >>> then these servers should have a standard API so that an index could be   
   >>> created somewhere where people can discover communities.   
   >>>   
   >>> Imagine how many closed NNTP servers, mailing lists are out there and   
   >>> nobody knows.   
   >> [...]   
   >>   
   >> Closed NNTP newsservers are not Usenet, just local proprietary news.   
   >> They're operated by a server owner who has the power of booting users   
   >> off his server if he doesn't like their opinions.  Those users have no   
   >> alternative server to use for those local groups so they've effectively   
   >> been censored, exactly like web forums with a cadre of moderators.   
   >>   
   >> With Usenet there are many servers, each carrying a subset of groups   
   >> from the full group list.  If a server operator TOSes a user they're at   
   >> liberty to use another service and still access their groups uncensored.   
   >   
   > That's right.  But I think we need the closed ones too.  But I also   
   > think the closed ones are a good way to show people that there's   
   > something out there that's the USENET.  So if they every get censored on   
   > a closed NNTP server, they could still go to a USENET server and still   
   > have a community they can't be banned from.   
   >   
      
   I think that more choice is better! Some will prefer small, private   
   communities, some the global usenet, and some will switch between the two.   
   =)   
      
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