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   Salvador Mirzo to nospam@example.net   
   Re: Schneier, Data and Goliath: no hope    
   23 Feb 25 23:21:11   
   
   From: smirzo@example.com   
      
   D  writes:   
      
   > On Thu, 20 Feb 2025, Salvador Mirzo wrote:   
   >   
   >>> Amen! Quite an efficiency hack! =D Another "security" hack I have   
   >>> implemented for my father is that I have forbidden him from getting   
   >>> government digital ID on his smart phone. This is very funny,   
   >>> because once scammers called him and told some kind of story that   
   >>> ended with them asking him to confirm what ever they wanted by   
   >>> opening the digital ID app (this is how most old people get scammed   
   >>> where I live) and he told them that he doesn't have it, due to   
   >>> security reasons...   
   >>>   
   >>> ... the scammers sighed heavily and just hung up. =D   
   >>   
   >> Lol.  If that's not a super inconvenience to your father, then I think   
   >> it's a great solution.  Over here these scams are quite a problem too.   
   >   
   > At the moment, everything essential in society has to be able to be   
   > done on paper, so it really is not a problem, and costs about 20-40   
   > minutes per year in extra writing on actual paper.   
   >   
   > This scares me though! I fear the day when a smartphone is mandatory   
   > in order to participate in society. This will be a sad day indeed. Add   
   > to that, centralbank managed electronic currencies, that can be clawed   
   > back from you, or where you are blocked from spending them in an   
   > instant, if you go against the government, and we have a very   
   > dystopian situation indeed. =/   
      
   I would think that there are so many poor people in the world that   
   governments could never really ask anyone to always have a phone.   
   However, I think it's already real that without such tools, the   
   alternative way will be so painful that a person like you or I will   
   likely not choose not to use a phone.   
      
   I think that's already more or less true in commerce.  For instance,   
   I've been at times confronted with the situation that without using   
   Whatsapp, I could not get service.   
      
   During the pandemics, for example, so many people could not find a way   
   out of following protocols they did not want to follow and even taking   
   chemical substances they did not want to take.  So many people I know   
   did not want to do it and did it anyway because it was a hassle   
   otherwise.   
      
   >> I also do talk to my father quite a lot about such matters.  And   
   >> anything suspicious at all, he always talks to me.  In fact, I've talked   
   >> to my entire family about such things.  To always let one another know   
   >> about these events---to talk often among us.  We learn more and so we   
   >> protect ourselves more.   
   >   
   > This is good advice! My father and I, and my wife, talk about these   
   > things, but we never formalized it, so that we say that we should talk   
   > to each other in case anyone does get a weird message.   
   >   
   > I read that in order to protect against voice cloning, you should   
   > decide on a family password as well. This we also haven't done. But I   
   > am currently working on a small IT-security curriculum for retired   
   > people, and that class will include an example of voice cloning to   
   > show them how it works, and what they can expect.   
      
   I haven't done something like that either.  But, you know, I'm going to   
   propose that this week---I think it's a very good idea.  I'm meeting   
   most of my family in two days.   
      
   >> The reason we can be so good at handling this computing world is because   
   >> we are pretty much obsessed about it; we spend the entire day thinking   
   >> about it; reading about it; writing about it.  By talking more with our   
   >> families about these matters, they do learn more from us.  Of course, we   
   >> can't expect they'll be coworkers.  We need to take things very slowly   
   >> and only as much as they can handle it.  Then it becomes kind of fun for   
   >> them too and then they learn a bunch.   
   >   
   > This is true. But this also requires some amount of simplification in   
   > order for it not to become an energy drain. That is why I like my way   
   > of limiting communication to phone and email. It only leaves two doors   
   > open which is easier to defend than 3 or 4 or 5 doors open. ;)   
      
   Quite right.   
      
   >>>>> So I find this to be a hueg benefit! I am also lucky because I run my   
   >>>>> own company, so my business partners know that if they want to reach   
   >>>>> me, they have 2 options, email or phone, and all of them accept that.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Nice to hear you run your own business.   
   >>>   
   >>> Yes, it is the best thing that has ever happened to me except for my   
   >>> wife. I am truly blessed and am very thankful for it every single   
   >>> day. =)   
   >>   
   >> Nice to hear that your wife is the best thing that ever happened to you.   
   >> I unfortunately can't yet say the same.  I'm single, although I'd love   
   >> to have little kids running around and through the house. :)  But first   
   >> I gotta find someone who I love and who loves me.   
   >   
   > In my experience, as long as you are living a positive life, and don't   
   > get caught in depression, and caught by unreasonable aesthetic   
   > standards, this will happen in time.   
      
   That's *very* good to hear as this is the most important thing to me.  I   
   feel very much protected from all of these malaise (for lack of a better   
   word).   
      
   > As for children, no such thing for me, since biologically I have an   
   > extremely low chance of having children. On the other hand, my parents   
   > got the same diagnosis from the doctor, and they had me, and the   
   > doctor said it was not possible according to science, so who knows? ;)   
      
   I am sorry for hearing the news, but I also feel that we should hope for   
   the best here.  I think nobody should trust doctor's predictions.  I   
   certainly don't know the reasons you might have low chance of having   
   children and let's remember this is a public forum.  The subject does me   
   remind me of a conversation with epidemiologist Shanna Swan, which I   
   have been slowly rewatching again---it's a 2h conversation.  The entire   
   conversation is very interesting.  In this conversation, we can learn   
   that male fertility is decreasing by 1% *per year*.   
      
     Shanna Swan on male fertility (et cetera)   
     https://youtu.be/C9aqGqjC1kE   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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