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   D to Salvador Mirzo   
   Re: Schneier, Data and Goliath: no hope    
   24 Feb 25 10:43:25   
   
   From: nospam@example.net   
      
   On Sun, 23 Feb 2025, Salvador Mirzo wrote:   
      
   > D  writes:   
   >   
   >> On Thu, 20 Feb 2025, Salvador Mirzo wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> D  writes:   
   >>>   
   >>> [...]   
   >>>   
   >>>> My dream is that people will start to use small self-hosted,   
   >>>> end-to-end encrypted chat services, so that the laws forbidding   
   >>>> encryption become meaningless.   
   >>>   
   >>> That's my idea, too.  I don't think the USENET is actually a perfect   
   >>> project.  I think communities should not too large.  So I think we   
   >>> should build more NNTP servers to be used by small communities.  And   
   >>> then these servers should have a standard API so that an index could be   
   >>> created somewhere where people can discover communities.   
   >>>   
   >>> Imagine how many closed NNTP servers, mailing lists are out there and   
   >>> nobody knows.   
   >>>   
   >>> The web is like that.  A website sends you to another one.  This is   
   >>> decentralization.  No NNTP servers send you to another one, except those   
   >>> that have peers, but then it's as if they're all the same.  My idea is   
   >>> to make NNTP servers more like the web.   
   >>>   
   >>> I don't know if it works.  I'm thinking out loud.   
   >>   
   >> That would be a nice take on NNTP. A kind of "federated" nntp model,   
   >> as opposed to todays standardize and "global" version. Federated is   
   >> perhaps not the right word for it.   
   >>   
   >> I think I see your vision here... we could think of the local nntp   
   >> servers as small communities, you could opt-in to make them public,   
   >> keep them private, or just register them with a search engine if you   
   >> want.   
   >>   
   >> That model also would avoid all the newsgroup hierarchy stuff, you   
   >> just name your groups what ever you want, and you can decide to setup   
   >> peers with other communities you know.   
   >   
   > Yeah---that's the idea.  But it's also future.  First thing is to get a   
   > nice prototype with the mundane work done so that we can start dreaming   
   > up something cool like that.  More to follow eventually.   
   >   
      
   Looking forward to it!   
      
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