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   She could do another one on top, which is a typical thing.  But the more   
   you do it, the more it hurts your skin.  So if she removed it (somehow)   
   or did something over, it's just getting worse.   
      
   Sad, but can we do?  People can be pretty... You know.   
      
   >> Lol.  I'm saying all of this to say that I would never believe that it's   
   >> really impossible for you to have kids.  Life is full of adversities.   
   >> My idea is that we should work on them 'til the end---unconcerned with   
   >> the end result.   
   >   
   > This is a very sound philosophy! I do feel perfectly at ease with either   
   result,   
   > child or no child, but I have told my wife that as long as she wants it, I   
   > support us continuing trying. No matter the outcome, I'm fine with it. She is   
   > not however, which does make me sad.   
      
   She's not fine with either result?  Meaning she wants kids no matter   
   what?   
      
   >> End results imply a direction, a strategy.   
   >>   
   >> We try to fix the bug in the software because we want to understand what   
   >> caused the bug and how it works.  Not because we want the software to be   
   >> flawless.  So we don't fret if we can't figure it out, but we always   
   >> work on it.  We work directionless because we don't really mind not   
   >> getting to the end result.  Anywhere we go is natural enough; it's   
   >> divine enough.   
   >   
   > I think enjoying the process is very conducive to being able to perform the   
   > activity for a long time. It's almost as if you describe some zen like state.   
      
   There's just no other way, really.  In fact, if you're ever struggling   
   to do something, I think it's the perfect sign that something has to   
   change.  Surely it doesn't mean that we should just stop doing it.  It   
   could be our jobs, for example.  But surely something is wrong and then   
   we should have the light to find out what it is and somehow be able to   
   continue on another path.   
      
   I think life can be pretty joyful.  I pray to God (not literally) to   
   help me keep doing what I'm doing because I've been enjoying it.   
   Perhaps, though, there are even new things that I'd enjoy even more.  If   
   I need to change my life radically, I will.  God should show me the way   
   in His own way.  Lol---my language has been getting wildly religious. :)   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)