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   On Mon, 24 Feb 2025, Rich wrote:   
      
   > D  wrote:   
   >> On Mon, 24 Feb 2025, Salvador Mirzo wrote:   
   >>> Oh, yes, memory is another thing I notice.  Not only students, but   
   >>> teachers, too; I'm known as having a superb memory or something.   
   >>> Truth is, though, it's their memory that is not doing very well.   
   >>   
   >> I think smartphones and google are a huge part of the problem.  I do   
   >> not have a smartphone, so I have to remember things like codes,   
   >> shopping lists, directions, and I am convinced it helps my memory   
   >> somewhat.   
   >>   
   >> The young ones, just google everything, so they don't exercise their   
   >> memory.   
   >   
   > There have been studies to the effect that yes, using 'google' or 'the   
   > phone' to remember everything does indeed erode the ability to actually   
   > 'remember' without said crutches.   
      
   Interesting! That would confirm my subjective feeling.   
      
   >> For instance, one of the students the other day was amazed at how I   
   >> could live without google maps, and wondered how I do it.   
   >>   
   >> My answer, I check where I want to go, before I leave home.  Most of   
   >> the time I remember it.  If I don't know exactly where to go, I ask   
   >> someone in the street, or ask a hotel.  The hotels are nice, because   
   >> often they give you a map.  For long trips I might print out the map   
   >> on a piece of paper.  This has the advantage of having zero value, so   
   >> I never have to worry about dropping it, forgetting it or someone   
   >> stealing it.   
   >>   
   >> The students were chocked! ;)   
   >   
   > I saw a news report once (credibility slightly suspect) which posited   
   > that there were even some of the "youngins" that use "gps phone nav"   
   > for navigating routes they travel frequently, such that without the   
   > "nav tool" they are unable to recall how to get "there" from "here"   
   > even though they have made the exact same trip 200 prior times.   
      
   Wow! I find that hard to believe. If true, we are close to the end of our   
   civilization! =/   
      
   > I often 'frustrate' my wife by going off the beaten path (major roads)   
   > onto back roads (I'll admit, sometimes done specifically for the value   
   > of the 'frustration' part) to get "there" from "here" with no GPS nav   
   > or pre-planning at all and in almost all instances I get "there" even   
   > though the entire route is brand new for me.   
      
   This is excellent! Always going the same way, or driving the same route gets   
   very boring after a while. Sometimes when I walk a new path, I discover a new   
   store I didn't know existed.   
      
   > Those students that rely on gmaps would be even more shocked with one   
   > of those 'side trips'.   
      
   You bet!   
      
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