From: nospam@example.net   
      
   On Tue, 25 Feb 2025, Scott Dorsey wrote:   
      
   > Salvador Mirzo   wrote:   
   >> I don't have much information.  The command line seemed an awful   
   >> experience to them.  I suspect that they thought that the command line   
   >> was archaic means of system interface and that perhaps it was just a   
   >> teacher idiosyncrasy.   
   >   
   > This is something I see a lot of... we get interns who are engineering   
   > students or computer science students and they have never seen a command   
   > line of any sort before.  Not bash, not powershell, not anything.  They   
   > first of all don't get the command line concept and secondly they don't   
   > get the concept of the heirarchical filesystem.  "The file is on the   
   > computer!"  "But where on the computer?"  "It's on the computer!"   
      
   Please scott, you are breaking my heart! =(   
      
   > We even got a guy with a PhD in CS from a university that I had previously   
   > thought reputable who had never used a command line and who just could   
   > not understand how make works in spite of the O'Reilly book.   
      
   Stop, please, for the love of god!   
      
   > I think some of these concepts have to be introduced early on, but they   
   > NEED to be introduced early on in order to get any kind of basic computer   
   > literacy.   
   > --scott   
      
   This was a painful read. =( I thought I saw this due to the fact that I   
   teach at the vocational school level and not university level. Are yo   
   useriously telling me that this b.s. goes one (and comes out of) the   
   university level?   
      
   If so... we'll soon enter a period of decline, if even universities turn   
   out CS student so ill equipped to develop new brilliant services in todays   
   world. =(   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)