From: smirzo@example.com   
      
   kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) writes:   
      
   > D   wrote:   
   >>   
   >>This was a painful read. =( I thought I saw this due to the fact that I   
   >>teach at the vocational school level and not university level. Are yo   
   >>useriously telling me that this b.s. goes one (and comes out of) the   
   >>university level?   
   >   
   > In the US there is not so much of a clear distinction between college,   
   > university, and trade school.  We have for-profit trade schools that   
   > now call themselves universities, and colleges with full university   
   > programs.   
   >   
   > I can think of a number of places that call themselves universities that   
   > have CS programs that are basically programming programs... they exist   
   > to teach kids to write code so they can get a job and only teach the   
   > currently popular buzzwords and have no actual CS anywhere.   
   >   
   > I can think of one place that calls itself a college which has a CS   
   > program that is almost entirely theoretical... lots of proofs and lots   
   > of algorithm analysis.  Enough programming to be useful but it's expected   
   > students will learn that on their own.  A full year of graph theory, two   
   > years of continuous mathematics.   
   >   
   > And there is a standard ACM curriculum and there are places that follow it,   
   > but there are a whole lot of places that don't.  I think the ACM curriculum   
   > is very balanced between theory and practice and includes things like an   
   > assembler class and a digital logic class which are not themselves useful   
   > but which need to be taught in order to explain just what a computer actually   
   > is.   
   >   
   > But all of these places call themselves CS programs even though they have   
   > a huge diversity in what they actually teach.   
   >   
   > We also have a bunch of IT programs which are really business school programs   
   > with some computing added.  I think those are pretty much worthless, but they   
   > get a lot of students.   
      
   There's a lot of truth here.  I'm printing your article to show someone.   
      
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