From: smirzo@example.com   
      
   D writes:   
      
   > On Tue, 25 Feb 2025, Salvador Mirzo wrote:   
   >   
   >>> Yes, not to perpetuate the system is one of my reasons for not   
   >>> voting. It is funny, when I was young, I was very conservative. And as   
   >>> the years have passed, I've become more libertarian. My father, when   
   >>> he was young, was a communist, and during his life, he becase a   
   >>> moderate conservative.   
   >>   
   >> I can say the same. I was quite more leftist years ago. It is very   
   >> sensible: if people need protection, say, it makes perfect sense that   
   >> we'd use our resources to protect them. But then, with more experience,   
   >> you realize how non-trivial the situation is and that all of the   
   >> /sensible/ policy actually ends up working against itself.   
   >   
   > Many good hearted leftists are leftists because they cannot see or do not   
   think   
   > about second order, or third order, or N order effects. They get stuck at the   
   > immediate problem and do not think of how the consequences of their   
   immediate,   
   > knee jerk, solution will cause more pain down the line. This is sad. =(   
      
   Quite right. And there is the folly of rewarding A while hoping for B.   
      
    Kerr, Steven. ``On the folly of rewarding A, while hoping for B.''   
    Academy of Management journal 18.4 (1975): 769-783.   
      
   > Then of course you have evil leftists who are fully aware of this, and   
   > are leftists due to political power gains.   
      
   And there's the post-modernist movement, with their sheer nonsense and   
   confusion, that finds good reception in such groups---probably more so   
   than in others.   
      
   >>>>> But I found a company that did saliva-based tests, and I called a   
   >>>>> doctor who watched me perform the saliva based tests on the phone,   
   >>>>> and eventually she was so tired of the process that she said, what   
   >>>>> ever... write your own certificate, slap my name and signature on   
   >>>>> it, and just email me if you travel so I know.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> So for 1 years, that's what I did. =D   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Lol. She got tired. :)   
   >>>   
   >>> Yep! But the did also not like the vaccine, and let me in on a little   
   >>> secret. About 30% of her clinics staff were not vaccinated because   
   >>> they thought the tests were too few and it was too early. Officially   
   >>> all said they were, and no one spoke about it out of fear of getting   
   >>> kicked out of the clinic, but in private, during hushed lunch   
   >>> conversations, many admitted to not getting vaccinated.   
   >>   
   >> Very interesting. I have a similar experience. Every now and then I   
   >> hear from someone that they did not take any vaccine, or took one the   
   >> first shots, giving up afterwards. Some (sadly) remark that they took a   
   >> first shot (or a few shots) but they never wanted to. I have a very   
   >> close friend, for instance, who said she wouldn't take anything at all,   
   >> but that her son unfortunately took because he wanted to go to the   
   >> cinema. (I almost couldn't believe what I heard.) Another friend   
   >> remarked that she took three shots because she couldn't find a way out   
   >> due to her work---but she works in the same organization as I do. The   
   >> rules were the same for the two of us, so that's a case of unclear   
   >> understanding of the rules. That's something I've been telling my   
   >> family for many years. We need to understand how the system works---in   
   >> this case, what was available at our work place that we could use to   
   >> protect ourselves? The more we understand, the better we can protect   
   >> ourselves.   
   >   
   > I heard about a woman who was kicked out of blue shield due to not taking   
   > vaccines. She won a law suit and got millions in damages! =D There is hope!   
      
   We should check whether she really got the money. Getting a lawsuit   
   your way doesn't imply an increase in the checking account balance   
   (until later).   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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