From: nospam@example.net   
      
   On Thu, 27 Feb 2025, Salvador Mirzo wrote:   
      
   > For many years already, people talk about the concern with technology   
   > replacing the human hand in the labor market.  ``Machines will replace   
      
   This has been discussed since... the 1700s? 1800s? And every time people were   
   wrong. I do not believe that it will be any difference this time. Humans needs   
   and desires are infinite, so machines automating stuff, just pushes humans   
   further up the value chain. Should everything be automated, there are still   
   many   
   fields that will remain such as...   
      
   * Literature   
   * Science   
   * Politics   
   * Sports   
   * Religion   
   * Philosophy   
   * Services (human service will command a premium price=   
   * Artisanship   
   * Food/restaurants   
   * Space exploration   
      
   and the list just continues. More automation will bring us closer to a post   
   scarcity future. The only problem is, how do we deal with that? People with   
   built in motivation, interest and joy of life will thrive.... BUT... people who   
   have been brought up as machines will have a huge problem with motivation!   
      
   > humans.''  Machines have already replaced humans a long time ago; the   
   > reason you still find humans in manual labor is merely because humans   
   > are still the cheapest machines around.  When the robot becomes cheaper,   
   > humans will need to find new means of survival.   
      
   True!   
      
   > Non-sarcastically speaking now, what we should concern ourselves with is   
   > how to live a dignifying life, an objective that seems impossible to   
   > achieve by any method whatsoever: it is precisely by confining life in   
   > methods (as if we were scientific problems to be solved) that we become   
   > indistinguishable from machines.  Methods are useful to solve equations,   
   > but they will not quite help us in *living* in its deep sense.   
      
   I study positive psychology and transpersonal psychology. I think those two   
   disciplines will be very valuable in helping us to understand how human beings   
   can thrive and become happy in an ideal world, where everything is automated.   
      
   We would have to re-think education, community building, spirituality,   
   healthcare etc.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)