From: mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere   
      
   ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes:   
      
   > Mike Spencer  wrote or quoted:   
   >   
   >> Soon thereafter, Apple was ballyhooing the Mac so I borrowed a Mac for   
   >> a week, then went into the Apple Store and had a look:   
   >> Me: So, how do you program it?   
   >   
   >   IIRC at one point in time around 1981, the answer was:   
   >   
   >   You buy a Lisa. The "Lisa Workshop" is the development system   
   >   for the Mac.   
      
   Yeah.  Details have faded  from my recall after decades but....   
      
   Some time (months? years? I forget.) after I was stonewalled at the   
   (Bridgewater, NS) Apple store, I went into the new Apple store (in   
   Lunenburg, NS, possibly the same proprietors, possibly others) to see   
   what all the hype about the Lisa was.  Price was way more than basic   
   Mac, more than Intel/M$, not an inducement, especially so as an Apple   
   vendor had already alienated me.   
      
   As I've remarked before, in retrospect, really happy I settled for an   
   obsolete Osborne I and learned fundamenals rather than struggling with   
   Intel ideosyncrasies and obligatory GUI interface.   
      
   As an aside: I accumulated a flock of discarded Osbornes.  My wife   
   wrote her master's thesis on one of them and I supported one of her   
   uni friends  to whom I had given another.  The thesis was all-ASCII;   
   IIRC, we paid someone to format it in a then-modern word processor and   
   print copies for submission, binding etc.   
      
   --   
   Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
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